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Shocked by the racist signs at marches

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Pigeotto · 14/11/2023 07:14

Maybe I’m just severely naive but I’m honestly just shocked at the levels of racism of some of the signs at these marches. It’s just caught me really, really off guard.

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Girahim · 19/11/2023 20:02

Rubbishagain · 19/11/2023 19:18

So much easier to deny the truth of the atrocities that are happening daily. Children being burned alive. But let’s keep making frivolous statements and comments so we don’t have to accept the truth

Again, what does that have to do with racist signs on marches?

Jupitersstorm · 19/11/2023 19:30

Rubbishagain · 19/11/2023 19:18

So much easier to deny the truth of the atrocities that are happening daily. Children being burned alive. But let’s keep making frivolous statements and comments so we don’t have to accept the truth

What is happening is that children and adults are used by Hamas as shields. Each casualty is excellent propaganda for Hamas.
Anyhow, what kind of people hide hostages in a hospital and a military headquarters inside and beneath the hospital? Hamas people. They are the ones committing the atrocities. You are denying the truth behind the perpetrators of the atrocities.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12767727/Israeli-soldiers-raid-luxury-homes-Hamas-terrorists-unearth-35-tunnel-shafts-hiding-weapons-psychological-warfare-documents.html

Israel's Defence Force releases footage of huge 'Hamas tunnel'

The military, who have been carrying out an operation at the medical complex over the last week, said it had found a 55-metre-long underground passage 10 metres below the ground.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12767727/Israeli-soldiers-raid-luxury-homes-Hamas-terrorists-unearth-35-tunnel-shafts-hiding-weapons-psychological-warfare-documents.html

Stomacharmeleon · 19/11/2023 19:27

@Rubbishagain I never understand why posters like you feel the need to do that 'burnt alive'.... as if adding gratuitous facts to a gcse descriptive writing standard is going to make us all go....... your so right.
No one has said it's ok that children have been killed. It's horrific however it happens. Why can't we focus on next steps though rather than the needless recycling of emotive 'rubbishagain'

Sparklytops · 19/11/2023 19:24

Rubbishagain · 19/11/2023 19:18

So much easier to deny the truth of the atrocities that are happening daily. Children being burned alive. But let’s keep making frivolous statements and comments so we don’t have to accept the truth

Repeatagain.

Sparklytops · 19/11/2023 19:23

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 19:19

Could be Elon Musk

He thinks things are fact that are not

😂

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 19:19

Sparklytops · 19/11/2023 19:14

No,it is conjecture/speculation/response to a situation. That is not fact. I'm not surprised the irrelevance of their point on this thread, overlooked you.

Could be Elon Musk

He thinks things are fact that are not

Rubbishagain · 19/11/2023 19:18

Jupitersstorm · 19/11/2023 18:40

And now deleted.
That's what happens to anti-Semitic posts.
And ergo your post is anti-Semitic too and your post was "rubbish again".

What an apt username.

So much easier to deny the truth of the atrocities that are happening daily. Children being burned alive. But let’s keep making frivolous statements and comments so we don’t have to accept the truth

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 19:18

Stomacharmeleon · 19/11/2023 19:13

@Xenia do you think they will 'pause' if there is a 'pause' or ceasefire?

Depends if they still think it is a fun day out, like two ladies where I work. One said her husband was having so much fun he stayed until 9pm. She came home on the underground herself so he could continue.

I am professional so I overheard this a couple of weeks ago but have kept my mouth shut. It is difficult though.

Sparklytops · 19/11/2023 19:14

Rubbishagain · 19/11/2023 17:53

IT’s factually correct

No,it is conjecture/speculation/response to a situation. That is not fact. I'm not surprised the irrelevance of their point on this thread, overlooked you.

Stomacharmeleon · 19/11/2023 19:13

@Xenia do you think they will 'pause' if there is a 'pause' or ceasefire?

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 19:13

Jupitersstorm · 19/11/2023 18:40

And now deleted.
That's what happens to anti-Semitic posts.
And ergo your post is anti-Semitic too and your post was "rubbish again".

What an apt username.

😂

Xenia · 19/11/2023 18:52

The marches are in dangerous of becoming a kind of mob rule, intimidating and constant every weekend and thev olume of people on a regular basis almost has an appearance of insurrection compared with an occasional eco march or the small numbers stopping roads (just stop oil who I want stopped).

The police have a hard job but I don'#t want them saying we don't stop X because there are loads of people but we will stop y because there are hardly any people as that means the mob rules. It needs to be fair and equal. They do allow eg small protests outside things like the Chinese embassy protesting against Chinese treatment in China of religions like Falan Dong and most of us do not want all protests of all kinds stopped, but these very openly hostile to jews marches even if the majority on the marches, one hopes, are not anti semitic seem to be getting out of hand.

Jupitersstorm · 19/11/2023 18:40

Rubbishagain · 19/11/2023 17:53

IT’s factually correct

And now deleted.
That's what happens to anti-Semitic posts.
And ergo your post is anti-Semitic too and your post was "rubbish again".

What an apt username.

Girahim · 19/11/2023 18:21

Rubbishagain · 19/11/2023 17:53

IT’s factually correct

And completely irrelevant.

Rubbishagain · 19/11/2023 17:53

Sparklytops · 19/11/2023 12:45

And you posted your comment on this thread because ....?

IT’s factually correct

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/11/2023 16:05

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 19/11/2023 15:15

I came across this quote from Sartre yesterday and it's been on my mind.

>“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

How very apposite
Considering it's over 40 years since he died it's every bit as true today

tobeinthemaldives · 19/11/2023 15:33

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 19/11/2023 15:15

I came across this quote from Sartre yesterday and it's been on my mind.

>“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

"If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

Yep Lobster has disappeared from this thread for example - amongst others particularly two usernames beginning with P.

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 19/11/2023 15:15

I came across this quote from Sartre yesterday and it's been on my mind.

>“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

tobeinthemaldives · 19/11/2023 14:53

Yes indeed.

At the moment, governments are taking a Neville Chamberlain appeasement approach to the mobs. That didn't end well either.

Stomacharmeleon · 19/11/2023 14:50

@tobeinthemaldives that article was horrifying.

Jupitersstorm · 19/11/2023 14:22

Girahim · 19/11/2023 12:58

What has that got to do with racist signs on marches?

It would be interesting to learn what this off the scale anti-Semitic poster makes of the Hamas government.

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 13:11

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rather than a few bad taste signs at a protest march.

https://twitter.com/HaydenHewitt/status/1725960414654030022

"Bad taste", you say?

https://twitter.com/HaydenHewitt/status/1725960414654030022

Sparklytops · 19/11/2023 13:02

Girahim · 19/11/2023 12:58

What has that got to do with racist signs on marches?

It was just yet another attempt to minimise racism towards Jewish people. We can't have any empathy with more than one fraction of society.

Girahim · 19/11/2023 12:58

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What has that got to do with racist signs on marches?