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Shocked by the racist signs at marches

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Pigeotto · 14/11/2023 07:14

Maybe I’m just severely naive but I’m honestly just shocked at the levels of racism of some of the signs at these marches. It’s just caught me really, really off guard.

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mixgoal · 19/11/2023 22:09

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:44

And now we have an attempt to force all councillors to vote for a ceasefire at threat of their names being publicly released:

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Sugarman/status/1726216163238269046

So they'll add your name you anonymously if you don't want to publicly support a ceasefire, but they'll publish a list of people who didn't add their names. How does that work then?

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 22:07

Humdingerydoo · 19/11/2023 21:52

Yup, it's the only way. I've had to stop posting as some people on this topic are just 🤯🤯🤯🤯 Specially on that thread about misinformation where only posts about how evil Israel is are allowed 😂 Utterly pathetic.

Meanwhile my 7 year old has a school trip into London this week and they're having to take security with them instead of parent helpers as it's a Jewish school. Oh what fun!

Oh I took the misinformation misinformation thread off my list. It is amusing the misinformation misinformation going on in some posts but I haven't got time for that. We did a stella job during lockdown and now someone else or mumsnet can manage the looney toons and trolls.

Goodness fancy needing security for a school trip. So sorry that is the case.

London during the week is fine really. Not a sign of anything that is going on in most places here. I sometimes go up near Edmonton to visit a friend. Yesterday I stopped at a big Tescos there to get a few things on my way, which I have done before. It was really nice to see all the religious Jewish people and all the Muslim people just their walking about doing their shopping. Not nasty looks or weirdness. Just reminded me most people in London mix and are not like what we are seeing on here or at some protests.

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 22:05

@Trulywonderful FWIW I for one am very appreciative of all your posts.

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 21:59

@Humdingerydoo Yup, some (actually many) of them are too far gone now. Literally across all these threads. And they've learned how to put their points across without doing an explicit antisemitism as it were, so it's just pointless. It's totally blatant to others anyway because they're not as clever as they think they are.

Oh gosh, I hope your little one has a good time in London. It's awful they effectively need a 'security detail' at that age. It feels scarcely believable this is happening. X

Stomacharmeleon · 19/11/2023 21:59

@Humdingerydoo sorry seems inadequate but I am sorry that's his reality at the moment. It's not fair.

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:56

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 21:46

@Trulywonderful I find it more satisfying to ignore now. I used to think tackling their antisemitism head-on was the best approach. But they're not interested in listening anyway, and what they really, really want is a reaction. So just ignore and don't give them it.

Sometimes and sometimes no. That was more me explaining to anyone reading why that post was antisemitism and what the poster was saying to wiggle out of it etc. I try to always remember that more people read mumsnet than actually post on it. During covid I used to get private messages for users that said they only read posts. These people would thank me for my posts or wanting to ask me a question. Giraffe will probably say my head is too big now but I think this has made me post in a more educational way on occasion.

Humdingerydoo · 19/11/2023 21:52

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 21:46

@Trulywonderful I find it more satisfying to ignore now. I used to think tackling their antisemitism head-on was the best approach. But they're not interested in listening anyway, and what they really, really want is a reaction. So just ignore and don't give them it.

Yup, it's the only way. I've had to stop posting as some people on this topic are just 🤯🤯🤯🤯 Specially on that thread about misinformation where only posts about how evil Israel is are allowed 😂 Utterly pathetic.

Meanwhile my 7 year old has a school trip into London this week and they're having to take security with them instead of parent helpers as it's a Jewish school. Oh what fun!

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 21:47

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:44

And now we have an attempt to force all councillors to vote for a ceasefire at threat of their names being publicly released:

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Sugarman/status/1726216163238269046

It's all a bit 'listy' isn't it.

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 21:46

@Trulywonderful I find it more satisfying to ignore now. I used to think tackling their antisemitism head-on was the best approach. But they're not interested in listening anyway, and what they really, really want is a reaction. So just ignore and don't give them it.

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:44

And now we have an attempt to force all councillors to vote for a ceasefire at threat of their names being publicly released:

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Sugarman/status/1726216163238269046

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Sugarman/status/1726216163238269046

SomeCatFromJapan · 19/11/2023 21:43

@Silence1 Everything you post is somehow all about you.

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:43

OUTSIDE STARMER'S OFFICE - yesterday

"The djinn right? They've gone beyond Shaitan you know he's on the list because his wife's a Zionist you know his wife says, you know, Israel and he'll go and support Israel the little shit"

https://twitter.com/hurryupharry/status/1725893036784152837

https://twitter.com/hurryupharry/status/1725893036784152837

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:41

I have spoken to mumsnet about this one

First time I have done that in a couple of years at least

OK will now ignore all fuckwits derailing because they don't like people knowing about antisemitism and hate crimes from some protesters etc

Silence1 · 19/11/2023 21:37

My final post. No they would not see me as anti Semitic. They would see Israel as a murderous racist regime and my God they would be ashamed.

Silence1 · 19/11/2023 21:32

@Trulywonderful BTW I've been to Auschwitz. I've seen the children's shoes. My Polish friend said they will never forget the look etched on my face .
I'm now seeing the dead and dying children in Gaza on my news every night.

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:31

Silence1 · 19/11/2023 21:26

@Trulywonderful No they wouldn't. They would be horrified listening to an Oxbridge educated Israeli spokesman denying children dying, denying a humanitarian crisis in Gaza whilst at the same time ( jarring juxtaposition) expressing concern for their family and friends in the UK because of the rise of anti -Semitism.

That is whataboutism

You posted something antisemitic and they would be appalled at you. No excuses or blaming it on the current situation or idiots that have upset you with their speeches. You are the one that is chose to be antisemitisc and that is hounding a thread with things off topic because you don't like us talking about antisemitism.

Seriously have you been sniffing glue or are you that much blind to your own behaviour and antisemitisc words

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:26

Anti Zionist crowd goes mad...rumour is a Zionist has shown up!

https://twitter.com/hurryupharry/status/1725938077741293593

https://twitter.com/hurryupharry/status/1725938077741293593

Silence1 · 19/11/2023 21:26

@Trulywonderful No they wouldn't. They would be horrified listening to an Oxbridge educated Israeli spokesman denying children dying, denying a humanitarian crisis in Gaza whilst at the same time ( jarring juxtaposition) expressing concern for their family and friends in the UK because of the rise of anti -Semitism.

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:25

"At the police station.

Five of my neighbours threatened to murder me when they saw my Israeli flag on the way to today’s vigil in London."

What a world we are living in

https://twitter.com/NiohBerg/status/1726317062723879333

https://twitter.com/NiohBerg/status/1726317062723879333

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:24

noblegiraffe · 19/11/2023 21:11

No antisemitism round these parts, no siree.

I think someone is trying to avoid us talking about some of are last posts and links

We should probably just keep posting them again if they are that worrying to some people

(I am not going to get much work done this evening am I)

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:18

Silence1 · 19/11/2023 21:09

Have you listened to Israel politicians recently ? Nobody would be ashamed of me.

You can call the politicians whatever you like I don't care. However as most but not all are Jewish plus you were referring to the Jewish State that was antisemitism. Hence why mumsnet deleted it straight away

Just learn some history about non Jewish related horrors or even regimyou can compare Israel to now. There is plenty to go on. Also plenty of words you can use to describe what is happening. You don't have to be antisemitisc however you have chosen to be. So if you had relatives that were in the war like you say they would be horrified at your choice of words. Plus very very ashamed you don't understand why you can't say such things.

Silence1 · 19/11/2023 21:14

noblegiraffe · 19/11/2023 21:11

No antisemitism round these parts, no siree.

Of course not, my family died so Israel could murder Gaza children with impunity.

noblegiraffe · 19/11/2023 21:11

No antisemitism round these parts, no siree.

Silence1 · 19/11/2023 21:09

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:05

Silence1 - In response to the post that is now showing as deleted on my phone

They would be turning in their graves you used Nazism in reference to anything Jewish I would have thought. I mean you could refer to the Jewish State as any number of millions or words and phrases. However you chose to be antisemitisc. Anyone that thought for Britain in the war would be highly ashamed of you right at this moment!

Have you listened to Israel politicians recently ? Nobody would be ashamed of me.

Jupitersstorm · 19/11/2023 21:09

Silence1 is having his /her posts deleted very quickly. Hasn't she /he got the message yet?

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