Shocked by the racist signs at marches

And the footage...
And the fact Hamas have now said they had hostages in al shifa

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Sorry, I couldn't make sense of it from your use of strike through. I think it's perfectly clear that you are derailing this thread. Now I wonder why.

Not sure what agenda you have @Sugaristheenemy but it's certainly suspect on this particular thread

Could you explain to me why my previous post doesn’t make sense to you? What part of it do you not understand?

Not sure what agenda you have @Sugaristheenemy but it's certainly suspect on this particular thread.

You really believe that. How nice for you. Unfortunately, those on the receiving end of antisemitism don't see many niceties, at present. In fact, they haven't done for many years, buts let's just make light heart of it. Seriously.

Jupiter was getting annoyed that everyone was ignoring the evidence for Hamas HQ and the last time I looked (yesterday) there wasn’t any (a stash of guns is not really evidence of a base). So I asked what evidence and her reply? Something about me being a mole.

So I got on my high horse and responded - then decided to have a Google and wouldn’t you know it the beeb had reported on this CCTV thing and the IDF have possibly found and actual tunnel.
Good thing I checked eh?

@Sugaristheenemy sorry I didn't see you asked a question more made a statement.

I see the gaslighting is still continuing

Its not gaslighting to ask a question 🙈
It’s not as if anyone was fussed enough to actually answer it.

I know. It is just me pondering out loud. You will have to forgive me, I do that from time to time.

Thank you. I read it.

No TERRORISTS bring hostages to the largest hospital where it is rumoured there is a Hamas operation underneath it unless they own it....
They knew it would be targeted.
Of course it will be targeted.
The directors, doctors and nurses are there to serve and I have sympathies for them.... a gun to your head would be a big incentive to cooperate.
But it does also show however unpalatable that Hamas are well entrenched in the general populace and are happy and comfortable enough to use infrastructure.
And that's why this is happening.....

I see the gaslighting is still continuing.

That would certainly explain a lot, @StarbucksSmarterSister - I liked the responsible source too

@StarbucksSmarterSister that's as I thought really. There has very much been a narrative from some quarters that if it's medical personal they are somehow neutral/apolitical but I don't necessarily see why that would be the case.

I do also think many medical staff are being extraordinarily brave and working in impossible circumstances. Just that both these things can be true.

This was 2007, but ..

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2048866/

Hamas sympathisers perhaps? After all every poll shows the majority in Gaza are exactly that and it's entirely likely some of them are medics

Only waiting for someone to insist the guys with guns were really there to protect patients and staff against marauding Israelis ...

@upinaballoon I suspect you don't become the director of a hospital in Gaza without holding party membership.

@Trulywonderful But that isn't exactly what she said
🙈
Il see myself out but aaargh I just had to say it. Only because it was you and I hold you to higher standards I suppose. I hope that's taken in the right way as that's how it was intended
I think you might find her interview quite interesting and the struggles she faces as an ethnic minority woman in politics

Afraid?
A huge hospital, impossible to know and see what has happened in every nook and cranny of it?

There are verses in the Quran teaching that Islam comes before nation. Therefore some people have grown up with this belief. Not all Muslims believe this as a core to who they are but some will do.

I think this lady is either one that believes Islam before Nation or she just thinks everyone is about Islamophobia. Could be wrong but without speaking to her myself those are my guesses. I think if she is upset about the results she should have stuck to saying something like inhuman or lost humanity etc. What she has said will do the her cause and herself no favours. It just compounds stereotypes.

I found this interesting, talking of racism, that a Labour MP thinks her party is institutionally Islamophobic for not backing a ceasefire.

This troubles me, it feels at odds with a modern democracy.

I found this interesting, talking of racism, that a Labour MP thinks her party is institutionally Islamophobic for not backing a ceasefire.

So she has admitted that she sees the refusal to back a ceasefire as an attack on Islam simply because most (but not all) Gazans are Muslim. Hence, vastly simplified, Muslims see Israel, in trying to eradicate a proscribed terrorist group and rescuing hostages , as attacking Muslims generally.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12770835/Leftwing-Labour-MP-Zarah-Sultana-brands-party-institutionally-Islamophobic-Keir-Starmer-Gaza.html

I would expect no less

Some seriously sick individuals out there

Yes - this was just posed by Maldives in one of the hospitals threads. No doubt it will be shouted down for not being any evidence at all...