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Shocked by the racist signs at marches

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Pigeotto · 14/11/2023 07:14

Maybe I’m just severely naive but I’m honestly just shocked at the levels of racism of some of the signs at these marches. It’s just caught me really, really off guard.

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etmoiandme · 20/11/2023 21:16

I don't think we're far off from TikTok being footnoted in PhD theses (as a credible reference source, not subject matter).

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/11/2023 21:11

Seriously China played a blinder with Tiktok. Utter brain rot.

Trulywonderful · 20/11/2023 21:11

Stomacharmeleon · 20/11/2023 21:03

@Trulywonderful whilst people aren't paying attention.... have a new toy to play with.... Russia is going to town on the Ukraine.

Possibly why Cameron went there?

Cameron has probably been itching to go there for a long time. I mean everyone else he knows in the Tory party seem to have gone.

Honestly I think it is just part of his new job now to check in with the Ukraine

They definitely would have been talking about Putin and recent events in that conflict though

SovietSpy · 20/11/2023 21:10

Interesting article. It might be a long shot but I also feel China happily encourages destabilisation of the West so wouldn’t rule out their involvement in amplifying fake accounts and propaganda especially via tik tok. I always used to think the calls to ban tik tok seemed heavy handed but I’m starting to think it wouldn’t be a bad thing. The amount of rubbish on there that is actively forming people’s opinions is scary.

Stomacharmeleon · 20/11/2023 21:03

@Trulywonderful whilst people aren't paying attention.... have a new toy to play with.... Russia is going to town on the Ukraine.

Possibly why Cameron went there?

Trulywonderful · 20/11/2023 21:00

Russia would get involved in this just to cause unrest in Europe

Putin has been using the destraction of conflict and protests to really hammer the Ukraine in the last month.

Trulywonderful · 20/11/2023 20:58

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/11/2023 20:53

Question is, who is behind this?

Possibly Russia I guess, they're a partner with Iran. But bloody hell there is no shortage of useful idiots in the West to assist.

True

During covid Russia was doing similar but not quite so advanced stuff. AI being used is new that's for sure

We were all asking if people had a link other than Instagram too. Goes to show people should always trust their git on these things

etmoiandme · 20/11/2023 20:57

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/11/2023 20:53

Question is, who is behind this?

Possibly Russia I guess, they're a partner with Iran. But bloody hell there is no shortage of useful idiots in the West to assist.

Yes I would say that's the case - a lot of money will be changing hands with willing academic grifters in the West. It's just an extension of what they've been doing already over Syria, Ukraine, etc.

Jupitersstorm · 20/11/2023 20:54

I haven't. Thanks for sharing. It is fascinating and illuminating and possibly further evidence

Trulywonderful · 20/11/2023 20:54

Makes sense doesn't it. Like you most of us noticed the Instagram and Tiktok links getting posted on here

Tiktok came out a few days ago saying they had to remove thousands of fake accounts and the AI was being used to push misinformation. So this all ties in doesn't it.

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/11/2023 20:53

Question is, who is behind this?

Possibly Russia I guess, they're a partner with Iran. But bloody hell there is no shortage of useful idiots in the West to assist.

Sparklytops · 20/11/2023 20:48

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/11/2023 20:46

This is a very interesting article. It explains something I'd noticed, the huge prevelace of Instagram accounts as the source of propaganda.

"Like many other old-fashioned liberals, I’d mistakenly perceived the social-justice phenomenon as a moral extrapolation of the civil-rights movement. In time, I realized that what I was really doing was signal-boosting the values of far-left academics seeking to destroy liberal values."
https://quillette.com/2023/11/16/hamas-cheerleaders/

Question is, who is behind this?

SomeCatFromJapan · 20/11/2023 20:46

This is a very interesting article. It explains something I'd noticed, the huge prevelace of Instagram accounts as the source of propaganda.

"Like many other old-fashioned liberals, I’d mistakenly perceived the social-justice phenomenon as a moral extrapolation of the civil-rights movement. In time, I realized that what I was really doing was signal-boosting the values of far-left academics seeking to destroy liberal values."
https://quillette.com/2023/11/16/hamas-cheerleaders/

Hamas Cheerleaders Are All Over Instagram

Since 10/7, young social-media users have been inundated with memes that present terrorists as social justice champions.

https://quillette.com/2023/11/16/hamas-cheerleaders

Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:44

Very aggressive aren't you?

Maybe that’s because you’re doing your best to wind me up. * *
For someone who cares so much about the thread being derailed you sure are keen to start a pointless argument in the middle of it

Sparklytops · 20/11/2023 20:43

Trulywonderful · 20/11/2023 20:38

Seen as nobody is currently talking on this thread about protests etc, Jup this is something interesting have you seen it:

Absolutely 💯.

Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:42

Anyway - here's one report especially for you

Oh how kind.

Sparklytops · 20/11/2023 20:42

Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:40

but why did Jupiter need to do this for you?

Oh I’ve no idea. I was only asking a fucking question.

Very aggressive aren't you? Care to take a breather and not come back onto a topic that you clearly disagree with. 🙄

Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:40

but why did Jupiter need to do this for you?

Oh I’ve no idea. I was only asking a fucking question.

Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:38

Haha. Thought so

You win huh?
So is this spat over now or..?

Trulywonderful · 20/11/2023 20:38

Seen as nobody is currently talking on this thread about protests etc, Jup this is something interesting have you seen it:

Shocked by the racist signs at marches
tobeinthemaldives · 20/11/2023 20:38

Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:07

Jupiter was getting annoyed that everyone was ignoring the evidence for Hamas HQ and the last time I looked (yesterday) there wasn’t any (a stash of guns is not really evidence of a base). So I asked what evidence and her reply? Something about me being a mole.

So I got on my high horse and responded - then decided to have a Google and wouldn’t you know it the beeb had reported on this CCTV thing and the IDF have possibly found and actual tunnel.
Good thing I checked eh?

Hi Sugar - first off - how was Jupiter getting annoyed? I didn't get that impression at all. Exasperated perhaps. Maybe she didn't want to post evidence of Hamas using the hospital as a command centre as this is a thread about racism but the evidence is there if you want to look (as you did) but why did Jupiter need to do this for you?
And who is the "everyone was ignoring the evidence for Hamas HQ ". Many people on this thread are not ignoring it but they are tending to do it on the hospital thread. No prizes for guessing why.

Anyway - here's one report especially for you.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-12770613/Israels-Defense-Force-releases-footage-huge-Hamas-tunnel.html

Israel's Defense Force releases footage of huge 'Hamas tunnel'

The military, who have been carrying out an operation at the medical complex over the last week, said it had found a 55-metre-long underground passage 10 metres below the ground.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-12770613/Israels-Defense-Force-releases-footage-huge-Hamas-tunnel.html

Sparklytops · 20/11/2023 20:36

Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:36

So do you agree that antisemitism has accelerated since this latest turn in the conflict? Just though I would ask you since you are:

  1. On this thread

2. Willing to answer questions directed at you

Could you take your bad mood out on someone else please because you’re kind of starting to piss me off.

Haha. Thought so.

Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:36

So do you agree that antisemitism has accelerated since this latest turn in the conflict? Just though I would ask you since you are:

  1. On this thread

2. Willing to answer questions directed at you

Could you take your bad mood out on someone else please because you’re kind of starting to piss me off.

Sparklytops · 20/11/2023 20:34

Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:30

Sorry, I couldn't make sense of it from your use of strike through.
Yes I’m sure
I meant the one after that though.

I think it's perfectly clear that you are derailing this thread. Now I wonder why.
Actually I’m just responding to other people’s posts which is fair enough if they’re directed at me I think.

So do you agree that antisemitism has accelerated since this latest turn in the conflict? Just though I would ask you since you are:

  1. On this thread
  2. Willing to answer questions directed at uou.
Sugaristheenemy · 20/11/2023 20:30

Sorry, I couldn't make sense of it from your use of strike through.
Yes I’m sure
I meant the one after that though.

I think it's perfectly clear that you are derailing this thread. Now I wonder why.
Actually I’m just responding to other people’s posts which is fair enough if they’re directed at me I think.