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Difficulty with burials in Gaza *MNHQ has altered the title of this thread*

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SadTimes96 · 13/11/2023 21:29

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How did we go from, did Israel bomb a hospital? To patients being killed by Israel in their masses and the hospitals becoming a war zone and cemetery.

It has been reported that there are so many dead bodies, they can't be buried. Dogs are actually eating them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67400490

Israel-Gaza live news: WHO says Gaza's biggest hospital becoming a cemetery - BBC News

Kidney patients and premature babies are at risk, and the hospital's morgue is not functioning, the World Health Organization says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67400490

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SadTimes96 · 14/11/2023 09:05

@mumsnet can you please change the title according to the relevant BBC article. "WHO: Gaza's biggest hospital becoming a cemetery"

Thank you

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SadTimes96 · 14/11/2023 09:02

Efacsen · 14/11/2023 08:59

Al Jazeera reports that al-Shifa hospital director Mohammad Abu Salmiyah has said the hospital has been forced to bury 179 people, including babies and patients who died in the intensive care unit “in a mass grave” in the complex.

The claim has not been independently verified.

Guardian just now

Plus your thread title has already been changed

That's because Israel has blocked any independent journalists going into Gaza.

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Efacsen · 14/11/2023 08:59

Al Jazeera reports that al-Shifa hospital director Mohammad Abu Salmiyah has said the hospital has been forced to bury 179 people, including babies and patients who died in the intensive care unit “in a mass grave” in the complex.

The claim has not been independently verified.

Guardian just now

Plus your thread title has already been changed

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SadTimes96 · 14/11/2023 08:56

@mumsnet please change the title to:

WHO: Palestinian hospital becoming a cemetery.

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SadTimes96 · 14/11/2023 08:55

FrancescaContini · 14/11/2023 07:44

Why use exclamation marks, FFS? Are you a Take A Break! sensationalist seeker?

Agree with “the horror of Gaza not needing embellishment”. I’m hiding your thread; the wording is sickening.

Would be nice if you could criticise the Israeli government for making this happen rather than me for simply relaying.

I'm trying to let people know how horrific this all is. Some people are still in denial.

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SadTimes96 · 14/11/2023 08:51

I'll change the title. It is a horrible title but it's a horrible thing that is happening.

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Reallifelurker · 14/11/2023 07:45

And exclamation marks like it's exciting 🙁

A sentence like the title warrants an exclamation mark to be fair - it’s pretty gross shocking.

FrancescaContini · 14/11/2023 07:44

Why use exclamation marks, FFS? Are you a Take A Break! sensationalist seeker?

Agree with “the horror of Gaza not needing embellishment”. I’m hiding your thread; the wording is sickening.

GoodOldEmmaNess · 14/11/2023 07:41

And when the dogs feed off people's bodies, OP, at least they have the excuse of being starving. What is your excuse?

Reallifelurker · 14/11/2023 07:41

You have made a sensationalist thread title out of BBC reports which have one single sentence referencing that particular detail, which isn't even verified.

The horror of Gaza doesn't need embellishment

To be fair it isn’t embellishment if it’s actually happened. But yeah, it is the grimmest thread title I’ve seen in a while

PinkflowersWhiteBerries · 14/11/2023 07:39

GoodOldEmmaNess · 14/11/2023 07:38

What the hell is the point of your thread title? The atrocity of this war on Gaza is already being discussed on a million other threads but you still want to jump in, OP, and be the one who gleefully shares such an appalling detail?
You don't stop to think that such details are inevitable when there is enough carnage, so that nothing, absolutely nothing except the exploitation of war for your personal scrolling pleasure is being achieved by starting this thread?

This.

The horror of Gaza does not need embellishment

And this.

GoodOldEmmaNess · 14/11/2023 07:38

What the hell is the point of your thread title? The atrocity of this war on Gaza is already being discussed on a million other threads but you still want to jump in, OP, and be the one who gleefully shares such an appalling detail?
You don't stop to think that such details are inevitable when there is enough carnage, so that nothing, absolutely nothing except the exploitation of war for your personal scrolling pleasure is being achieved by starting this thread?

IClaudine · 14/11/2023 07:33

SadTimes96 · 14/11/2023 07:28

It is what it is, how does anyone talk about this without it sounding ghoulish? :/ ... It is far worse than that.

You have made a sensationalist thread title out of BBC reports which have one single sentence referencing that particular detail, which isn't even verified.

The horror of Gaza doesn't need embellishment.

Saschka · 14/11/2023 07:33

Ohlalalalala · 13/11/2023 21:58

Exactly. They will never contradict them too as they are both in it together. Israel will try whatever it takes to "show" that there was a command centre in/ around hospital. Lie after lie after lie ad infinitum.
In the meantime people are still being killed and the genocide hasn't stopped. 2023. Who would have thought.

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Honestly, even if there is a command centre underneath, I don’t think it justifies bombing a functional hospital. Just as the presence of potential Al-Qaeda operatives didn’t justify drone strikes on a wedding when we did it.

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SadTimes96 · 14/11/2023 07:28

It is what it is, how does anyone talk about this without it sounding ghoulish? :/ ... It is far worse than that.

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IClaudine · 14/11/2023 07:14

Ask MNHQ to amend the title OP. It is ghoulish.

fisherhatesgravel · 14/11/2023 07:06

Girlsjustwannahavefundamentalrights · 14/11/2023 06:48

Was that thread title actually necessary?

And exclamation marks like it's exciting 🙁

Girlsjustwannahavefundamentalrights · 14/11/2023 06:48

Was that thread title actually necessary?

Pinkpinkpink15 · 14/11/2023 06:46

SadTimes96 · 13/11/2023 22:03

Does this justify bombing oxygen supplies to babies and patients?

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@SadTimes96 lemonade

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SadTimes96 · 13/11/2023 22:12

SomeCatFromJapan · 13/11/2023 22:07

Have you actually read the article or just jumped at the headline?

Yes I have, there are two separate references. The unnamed offical who today is saying they confirm that there is a command node under the hospital, and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan commenting on Sunday about precedent.

Are you trying to justify oxygen being switched off for NICU babies? ...

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gamerchick · 13/11/2023 22:10

RudsyFarmer · 13/11/2023 21:31

i have to hide this section. The constant stream of horrific headlines is too much. If I wanted constant depraved news bulletins I’d be reading a paper.

Addicted ghouls some people on this topic I'm very glad it's got its own section on here.

SomeCatFromJapan · 13/11/2023 22:07

Have you actually read the article or just jumped at the headline?

Yes I have, there are two separate references. The unnamed offical who today is saying they confirm that there is a command node under the hospital, and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan commenting on Sunday about precedent.

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SadTimes96 · 13/11/2023 22:03

Pinkpinkpink15 · 13/11/2023 21:54

@SadTimes96 Hamas have denied...

well, I have a bridge to sell you.

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Does this justify bombing oxygen supplies to babies and patients?

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SadTimes96 · 13/11/2023 22:02

SomeCatFromJapan · 13/11/2023 21:47

They would deny it. There's comfirmation coming from the US though:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/13/politics/al-shifa-hospital-us-intelligence/index.html

Also quite a lot of footage from the IDF on twitter although I know most here will say it's fake.

Have you actually read the article or just jumped at the headline?

It is one us official saying based on previous use of hospitals, it is highly likely. This is ONE US official, an ally of Israel? ... This is not evidence or proof of anything. This is just speculation with a headline.

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Ohlalalalala · 13/11/2023 21:58

NotTerfNorCis · 13/11/2023 21:50

The US is just repeating whatever Israel tells them.

Exactly. They will never contradict them too as they are both in it together. Israel will try whatever it takes to "show" that there was a command centre in/ around hospital. Lie after lie after lie ad infinitum.
In the meantime people are still being killed and the genocide hasn't stopped. 2023. Who would have thought.