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Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 13/11/2023 17:44

There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

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Rammer · 14/11/2023 23:05

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Bernadotte · 14/11/2023 22:45

Yes it was. There was a ceasefire in place before 7/10.

A ceasefire you mean because people from Israel weren’t dying whilst people from Palestine were and women were being raped in Palestine ? Is that the kind of ceasefire you mean ?

victarion · 14/11/2023 22:59

aeterofax · 14/11/2023 22:54

Never heard of AIPAC, I see. Or what Likud wants.

Sorry, what has thay got to do with the anti-Semitic blog you posted? You'll have to explain.

aeterofax · 14/11/2023 22:54

victarion · 14/11/2023 22:40

That guy makes a lot of very "interesting" points on his substack page. The article on the home page is about how "there’s clearly a huge problem with Jewish power and money in the US" and the reason Israel is bombing Gaza is because "Israel, the Jewish state full of Jewish people, obviously has something to do with the thinking, behavior, attitudes, culture, and especially religion of the Jewish people, right?"

His next article is better though.

"66% of Americans want a ceasefire, but the Genocide Jews are having nothing of it. 2% of Congress wants a ceasefire.
How can we make sense of this? It’s not all about votes. Congress is answering to something other than public opinion and that something is Jewish money. Bottom line is the Jewish Lobby has bought the US government on this issue and owns it lock, stock, and barrel."

https://beyondhighbrow.com/

These are some really fun websites you're reading.

Edit: that was in response to the blog post @aeterofax posted about how Israel made up the number of dead on October 7th, but in between writing it and posting it was deleted so now I just look like a knob who posted a link to an anti-Semitic blog out of context. Still, good to know what kind of person they are.

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Never heard of AIPAC, I see. Or what Likud wants.

Takoneko · 14/11/2023 22:53

These threads have been incredibly eye-opening. I’ve always thought of myself as broadly pro-Palestinian. I am firmly in the camp that believes Israeli settlement building to be illegal and I favour a two-state solution based on 1967 borders (or something like them) and think Netanyahu is awful.

However, the naked antisemitism and pro-Hamas stuff that I’ve seen in the last month has actually turned my stomach a bit.

People just can’t seem to resist swastikas, references to Hitler and false equivalencies between a reckless approach to civilian casualties (which, just to be clear, I believe to be wrong and illegal) and the deliberate and systematic murder of 6 million Jews. The Dresden bombing is right there as a much better comparison… but no… every time they reach for the Shoah. Apparently comparing Netanyahu to Churchill doesn’t give them quite the same thrill. Hmm

I think I need to step away from this board for a bit. Huge support to everyone trying to bring nuance, factfulness and humanity to these threads in the face of this stuff.

FourCandlesNotForkHandles · 14/11/2023 22:47

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@H chases MNs that they don’t agree with all over these
they are apparently always right?
Most MN just don’t engage,

Bernadotte · 14/11/2023 22:45

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 14/11/2023 12:05

@Iwantcakeeveryday do you really believe that this all started on 7/10? It wasn't the starting point.

Yes it was. There was a ceasefire in place before 7/10.

Bigminnie1 · 14/11/2023 22:44

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victarion · 14/11/2023 22:40

That guy makes a lot of very "interesting" points on his substack page. The article on the home page is about how "there’s clearly a huge problem with Jewish power and money in the US" and the reason Israel is bombing Gaza is because "Israel, the Jewish state full of Jewish people, obviously has something to do with the thinking, behavior, attitudes, culture, and especially religion of the Jewish people, right?"

His next article is better though.

"66% of Americans want a ceasefire, but the Genocide Jews are having nothing of it. 2% of Congress wants a ceasefire.
How can we make sense of this? It’s not all about votes. Congress is answering to something other than public opinion and that something is Jewish money. Bottom line is the Jewish Lobby has bought the US government on this issue and owns it lock, stock, and barrel."

https://beyondhighbrow.com/

These are some really fun websites you're reading.

Edit: that was in response to the blog post @aeterofax posted about how Israel made up the number of dead on October 7th, but in between writing it and posting it was deleted so now I just look like a knob who posted a link to an anti-Semitic blog out of context. Still, good to know what kind of person they are.

Beyond Highbrow – Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist and Provocateur: No Sacred Cows. Smash All Taboos

https://beyondhighbrow.com

aeterofax · 14/11/2023 22:39

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victarion · 14/11/2023 22:31

We're talking about savages, right?

Yes @æterofax we are. Hamas are savages.* *

Takoneko · 14/11/2023 22:26

@mnhq How is it that you’ve found time to delete the post by @Humdingerydoo but posts suggesting that Hamas weren’t really responsible for the 7/10 attacks and describing those terrorist arracks as “humane” and “ethical” are still standing?

Humdingerydoo · 14/11/2023 22:24

Anyone know why my reply to the poster above was deleted?! I was just pointing out that the poster and Hamas are both lying about Hamas caring about minors and the elderly, as evidenced by one of Hamas' more recent hostage videos.

Insanity

Ohlalalalala · 14/11/2023 22:24

@Humdingerydoo

BLOWBACK: HOW ISRAEL WENT FROM HELPING CREATE HAMAS TO BOMBING IT
Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

This isn’t a conspiracy theory. Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)

Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to Bombing It

Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict

Rammer · 14/11/2023 22:24

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FourCandlesNotForkHandles · 14/11/2023 22:21

Ps. That’s not misinformation as he was at the meeting.
This is what the truth looks like

FourCandlesNotForkHandles · 14/11/2023 22:20

Meanwhile Israel’s grand plan at the UN conference September 2023!!!
Pictures speak volumes don’t they
Wheres Palestine…….where have the Palestinians all gone
That’s less than a month before Israel started bombing. ( not for the firs5btime obviously )

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Humdingerydoo · 14/11/2023 22:19

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You're fucking off your mind

æterofax · 14/11/2023 22:17

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Humdingerydoo · 14/11/2023 22:16

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I read it several times before replying in the first place as I didn't believe anyone could be that ignorant. So no need to reread again.

Literally know idea what you mean by the second part.

æterofax · 14/11/2023 22:15

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Kendodd · 14/11/2023 22:15

Bendysnap · 13/11/2023 18:23

Are Palestinian people living in the UK being targeted and subject to abuse while they’re out and about (like Jewish people are)? Genuine question, as I don’t know.

I think they did right after the Hamas attack don't know about now.

Takoneko · 14/11/2023 22:13

There’s no point wasting breath on someone who thinks that Hamas soldiers were under orders not to harm women, elderly and minors and who blames the violence of 7th October on “those who weren’t Hamas but crossed over and caused mayhem”. You are beyond reason and have a clear agenda. @MNHQ is this really OK here?

æterofax · 14/11/2023 22:13

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