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Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 13/11/2023 17:44

There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

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Iwantcakeeveryday · 15/11/2023 12:53

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 15/11/2023 12:31

@Iwantcakeeveryday I don’t know exactly how much gas is there. As I have already said numerous times, I posted an opinion, a passing thought. Not a fact. Granted this thread probably isn’t the prime place for opinions but I was responding to another poster who asked why I thought Starmer would choose to sack MPs for voting a ceasefire.

If you really can’t tell the difference between an opinion and a fact, a thread on misinformation probably isn’t for you.

A passing thought! Ok. So you think Strarmer is motivated by his financial interest in Gaza gas that you don't know for sure exits or how much exists or if its worthwhile for anyone to even care about. What a strange thing to post on this particular thread. I can tell the difference between opinion and fact, I am simply questioning how you came to have that opinion because usually most intelligent people base an opinion on something, yours seems to be plucked from the air.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 15/11/2023 12:47

@Iwantcakeeveryday

You did not address the misinformation at all, you ignored it and moved on to something else. Because you don't want to even acknowledge there is negative misinformation about Israel.

Given the fact that I've read different from what Reuters has reported I was not inclined to say that what they have reported is in fact correct.

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DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 15/11/2023 12:31

@Iwantcakeeveryday I don’t know exactly how much gas is there. As I have already said numerous times, I posted an opinion, a passing thought. Not a fact. Granted this thread probably isn’t the prime place for opinions but I was responding to another poster who asked why I thought Starmer would choose to sack MPs for voting a ceasefire.

If you really can’t tell the difference between an opinion and a fact, a thread on misinformation probably isn’t for you.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 15/11/2023 12:18

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 15/11/2023 12:16

How did I ignore it? I did reply to @noblegiraffe saying I read that there were shootings etc. Did you ignore that part or did you not read the thread properly? I shared the link after I answered.

You did not address the misinformation at all, you ignored it and moved on to something else. Because you don't want to even acknowledge there is negative misinformation about Israel.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 15/11/2023 12:16

Iwantcakeeveryday · 15/11/2023 12:06

I'm confused @whatswrongwiththeworldddd once again by your thread. Its meant to be about misinformation? @noblegiraffe gave an example from the BBC which was quite blatant but you ignored that and shared an instagram link.

@noblegiraffe thanks for sharing that and their apology, but they really shouldn' be making 'mistakes' as obvious and damaging as that.

How did I ignore it? I did reply to @noblegiraffe saying I read that there were shootings etc. Did you ignore that part or did you not read the thread properly? I shared the link after I answered.

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Iwantcakeeveryday · 15/11/2023 12:09

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This is a thread about misinformation.
Gaza has a wealth of gas in the marine borders does it? a 'wealth of'? how much?
because it means I won’t get my money Money form what? the gas? Who do you mean and who has financial interest in this 'wealth of gas'. This was discussed by a poster here yesterday who had good knowledge of this so I am interested in how you actually come to the conclusion you have and why you'd post it on this particular thread.

Humdingerydoo · 15/11/2023 12:07

I see my comment was deleted, presumably because I told the poster to go away but in different terms.

I just want to be clear - the poster is spreading conspiracy theories and pretending it's just their own personal musings. It's not. It's a well-known conspiracy theory without any basis in fact. It therefore doesn't have any place here in a thread about misinformation being spread.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 15/11/2023 12:06

I'm confused @whatswrongwiththeworldddd once again by your thread. Its meant to be about misinformation? @noblegiraffe gave an example from the BBC which was quite blatant but you ignored that and shared an instagram link.

@noblegiraffe thanks for sharing that and their apology, but they really shouldn' be making 'mistakes' as obvious and damaging as that.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 15/11/2023 11:53

@Humdingerydoo I will neither “piss off” nor continue to word opinions as opinions or facts as facts, but feel free to continue to conflate the two on as many threads and newspaper articles as you like.

Humdingerydoo · 15/11/2023 11:47

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DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 15/11/2023 11:42

Humdingerydoo · 15/11/2023 11:21

Do you feel better now having been rude to an anonymous stranger on the internet?

So glad you think you have come up with some really clever conspiracy all on your own, despite you clearly just writing something you saw on here a couple of days ago. What politicians in the UK do you think are the ones who will profit in all this?

Rudeness is met with more rudeness. In my world, we call that “chat shit, get banged”, but I prefer to use words as my metaphorical fists.

I actually didn’t know it was mentioned on here a few days ago, but glad to know it is already being discussed.

As for “what politicians”, no, I don’t know who in particular as it’s just a theory, as I have maintained since the first post on the matter.

Rammer · 15/11/2023 11:34

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Trulywonderful · 15/11/2023 11:31

noblegiraffe · 15/11/2023 10:01

I think the explanation was that some of the bodies turned out to be Hamas not Israeli.

Yes plus the number of hostages went up. Some reported dead turned out to be kidnapped. A lot of confusion and trauma from witnesses in the beginning

noblegiraffe · 15/11/2023 11:23

The BBC have issued an apology for their claim that the IDF was targeting medics https://x.com/bbcnewspr/status/1724739809724227692?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

https://x.com/bbcnewspr/status/1724739809724227692?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

noblegiraffe · 15/11/2023 11:22

Obviously no politician is ever going to state “I don’t want a ceasefire because it means I won’t get my money”, and I can’t conceive any other logical reason for politicians trying to actively prevent other politicians from voting for a ceasefire.

The way you wrote it implied that individual politicians were taking bribes from Israel. Saying "I won't get my money" doesn't help your case in claiming it's about gas in Gaza unless you can point to specific politicians in this case having interests in that area?

As for Labour having a three line whip on Israel and backing Keir Starmer's stance .... it's a loyalty test. If you know anything about the recent history of the Labour Party, you might see why.

Humdingerydoo · 15/11/2023 11:21

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Do you feel better now having been rude to an anonymous stranger on the internet?

So glad you think you have come up with some really clever conspiracy all on your own, despite you clearly just writing something you saw on here a couple of days ago. What politicians in the UK do you think are the ones who will profit in all this?

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Humdingerydoo · 15/11/2023 11:03

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 15/11/2023 11:01

Hence the words “my guess” and not phrasing said guess as fact. I’m not usually one to call out others’ reading comprehension skills but you really walked right into that one.

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You know what you're implying, and I know what you're implying. You really aren't fooling anyone.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 15/11/2023 11:01

Humdingerydoo · 15/11/2023 10:59

Oh really? Care to provide any proof of that whatsoever? This thread is meant to be about calling out misinformation, not spreading it.

@noblegiraffe your explanation makes more sense. I guess that proves a lot of them were either dressed as civilians or, in fact, were civilians who decided to join in the massacre

Hence the words “my guess” and not phrasing said guess as fact. I’m not usually one to call out others’ reading comprehension skills but you really walked right into that one.

Humdingerydoo · 15/11/2023 10:59

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 15/11/2023 10:02

My guess is there are financial interests involved.

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Oh really? Care to provide any proof of that whatsoever? This thread is meant to be about calling out misinformation, not spreading it.

@noblegiraffe your explanation makes more sense. I guess that proves a lot of them were either dressed as civilians or, in fact, were civilians who decided to join in the massacre

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 15/11/2023 10:44

Did anyone see the findings of a list of the names Hamas soldiers that were guarding the hostages? Turned out to be a calendar for shift patterns in the hospital.

Misinformation is everywhere, all the time, no matter what “side” you are on. We have information in our hands these days to fact check; can you imagine how much shit we’ve been fed over the years without the resources to quickly verify that we have now?

noblegiraffe · 15/11/2023 10:38

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 15/11/2023 10:33

No just sharing what I've read. Everywhere reports things differently.

You seem to have the wrong thread. The BBC was misquoting the Reuters report that they were referring to. It wasn't about 'reporting differently', it was about reporting incorrect information.

MrsSkylerWhite · 15/11/2023 10:34

Just as much propaganda from Israel.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 15/11/2023 10:33

noblegiraffe · 15/11/2023 10:31

This is a thread about misinformation, so are you saying that those reports aren't true?

No just sharing what I've read. Everywhere reports things differently.

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 15/11/2023 10:33

How disgusting is this.

The Israeli occupation shares a photo of them helping an elderly Palestinian for them to go and kill him minutes after.

www.instagram.com/p/CzoPCsRIcse/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

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