Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

Yes, the tunnels are well known, since Israeli architects built a command room and connecting tunnels in 1983 - according to wiki. It's very strange the media, are even pondering it. I think Hamas probably would use them, but also that, as I assume Israel has the original plans, they wouldn't place an HQ somewhere so obvious. Time will tell, I suppose.

It has lightened the mood and given us all a laugh though. So you have to thank OP for that

Just an idea maybe OP is Piers Corbyn 😁

Come on @whatswrongwiththeworldddd , enough now. You really shouldn't start a thread about misinformation and then go on spreading a bunch of it yourself. Stop spreading your own theories and start spreading facts instead. It's honestly ridiculous.

You can find videos of Hamas conducting interviews from their tunnels on YouTube. They have even given journalists little tours of their tunnel next work. I mean even Grant from Eastenders got to go have a look and did a documentary on the tunnels. A lot of links to YouTube or interviews or information about them was on the thread about Hamas Tunnels. Israel knows there are definitely chambers built below the hospital because they used them themselves before 2005. It makes total sense that they have information saying Hamas now uses these ready made tunnels and chamber. If I was Hamas I would have picked them to use too as they are better constructed than the ones fighters build themselves.

😂

Not even Hamas deny there being tunnels.

Yes, I'm sure it's all completely imaginary. Obviously part of Israel's cunning plan for world domination at the expense of "brown" people (to borrow terminology from many pro-P posters).

To be fair I'd have no idea, I've never set foot in Gaza. Have you?

Amnesty International reported the misuse of hospitals by Hamas in 2015?

"In a 2015 report, Amnesty said Hamas had commandeered a disused outpatient clinic at al-Shifa to interrogate, torture and kill opponents, in what Hamas enforcers dubbed “Operation Strangling Necks”.
The victims were people accused of collaborating with Israel, or of working with the rival Palestinian Fatah movement.
Abandoned areas of Shifa hospital “including the outpatients’ clinic area”, were used “to detain, interrogate, torture and otherwise ill-treat suspects, even as other parts of the hospital continued to function as a medical centre”, the Amnesty report noted.
One Fatah activist told Amnesty he suffered two hours’ torture at the outpatients’ clinic, being beaten with a hammer while blindfolded and trussed.
The report, which investigated dozens of extrajudicial executions by Hamas’s “internal security” agents, also said victims’ bodies would be dumped at Shifa’s morgue so that families could collect them. Many bore signs of torture and multiple gunshot wounds.
Philip Luther, Amnesty International’s Middle East and North Africa director, said at the time that Hamas’s actions were “spine-chilling” and “in some cases amount to war crimes”."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/11/12/hamas-keeping-civilians-in-hospitals-gaza-netanyahu/ (paywalled so I've copied the relevant bit)

It wouldn’t surprise me if the ‘extensive network of Hamas tunnels’ and ‘major bases’ under hospitals turn out to be Gaza’s equivalent of Iraq’s WMD.

But is the cat in the box or is the cat not in the box?

Schroeder would have something to say about this.

I'm sure it would help clarify everything.

undeniable!

Come on, don't play this faux-naive ignorance. We can all see what's going on here. It's perfectly clear. You're just blinded by your bloodlust.

There's a box in the first picture? There are some boxes in the second picture? Boxes are present? People use boxes? I just…what?

One has a white sticker on the bottom, the other has a white sticker on the top and the logos on both are different. I mean, they're clearly different boxes.

Yeah I couldn’t see as much on the first but The second pic of the thread

I'm looking closely at what is circled and what has an arrow and cannot see what on earth they're trying to compare?

Thread about the boxes that idf brought into the hospital as aid and then it was present in the video they did to proof that hamas had weapons
https://twitter.com/Dunian98/status/1724878903469023288

I agree but there is a lot written which I'm not sure needs to be in the public sphere, graphic descriptions.

The funny thing about media, even credible media, is that whenever I have known someone personally involved in a reported event they always say the coverage of it is completely misleading.

Current events give us plenty to argue about on MN, but let's face it, none of us has a fucking clue what is really going on behind closed doors. Thankfully, our opinions here carry absolutely no weight whatsoever.

@DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz

I welcome reliable news sources but there is a lot of conflicting information.

I know both sides will provide their own versions of truth but I would rather see a link to a reliable source.