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Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 13/11/2023 17:44

There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 16/11/2023 21:32

I mean take a look at this video. It's the longer version of the IDF showing "the list that says we are in operation" when it was just a calendar.

www.instagram.com/reel/CzrnEHWJPgQ/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

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Trulywonderful · 16/11/2023 21:29

ssd · 16/11/2023 21:23

IDF couldn't find their arse with both hands. And they are really bad acting all surprised when they find guns they just put there....even the bbc was dubious about their video showing inside the hospital. It all seems very unprofessional and amateur, given the money behind them.

Fathi Hammad : "We want you to cut off the heads of the Jews"

BBC translator : "We want you to caress the heads of the Zionists"

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Trulywonderful · 16/11/2023 21:27

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Personally I would have guessed instragram. A lot of mumsnetters seem to most links from instragram accounts that are raking in money by spreading conspiracy theories, hate speeches, idiots pretending to be experts, Hamas properganda etc

I should get an Instagram account. I already have two stalker that I know would follow me

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 16/11/2023 21:25

ssd · 16/11/2023 21:23

IDF couldn't find their arse with both hands. And they are really bad acting all surprised when they find guns they just put there....even the bbc was dubious about their video showing inside the hospital. It all seems very unprofessional and amateur, given the money behind them.

Exactly

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Trulywonderful · 16/11/2023 21:23

stormy4319trevor · 16/11/2023 21:16

I'm somewhat concerned about the IDFs competency, given they have accidentally killed 5000 kids while trying to be 'precise.' Quite agree @OuiOuiKitty that the calendar with days of the week was quite a stunning example of ineptitude.

Hopefully the next calendar will have chocolates in it. We are getting close to Xmas after all

So the IDF are cold calculating scheming evil beings one minute and then idiot buffoons the next. I can't keep up with the latest thoughts everyone has on the IDF. Sure by next week it will be something else.

Well at least we know they are regular human beings then. Just like the rest of us they make mistakes and cock up occasionally

ssd · 16/11/2023 21:23

IDF couldn't find their arse with both hands. And they are really bad acting all surprised when they find guns they just put there....even the bbc was dubious about their video showing inside the hospital. It all seems very unprofessional and amateur, given the money behind them.

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stormy4319trevor · 16/11/2023 21:16

I'm somewhat concerned about the IDFs competency, given they have accidentally killed 5000 kids while trying to be 'precise.' Quite agree @OuiOuiKitty that the calendar with days of the week was quite a stunning example of ineptitude.

Trulywonderful · 16/11/2023 21:12

Noelectricheating · 16/11/2023 21:10

Because Hamas is a very cheeky chap and really good at hiding.

He's probably in one of those boxes circled earlier 🙄better let the IDF know, save them searching all around looking for him.

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Trulywonderful · 16/11/2023 21:12

OuiOuiKitty · 16/11/2023 20:50

Yet the IDF can't find them? Maybe they should have called Grant in to search the hospital. I swear the IDF are the dumbest army in the world. Can't find the headquarters at the hospital, even though they did a wee Minecraft style video of where they are. Can't read Arabic so can't tell the difference between people's names and the days of the week. Have used 40 bombs an hour since the start of the conflict but Hamas are still firing at Israel. What on earth do they use all of their aid money for? It certainly isn't training up their army that's for sure. Maybe they use it on dance lessons for all of their tiktoks. A joke of an 'army'.

I literally have absolutely no idea what you are trying to do with this post or why you quoted me

Totally pointless in so many ways

Noelectricheating · 16/11/2023 21:10

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 16/11/2023 20:58

Well in that case why hasn't the IDF gone straight there and caught Hamas already? If Grant can get there then so can the IDF.

A better idea would have been to use and release body cam footage of the evidence they found as soon as they found it. Not after finding them.

Because Hamas is a very cheeky chap and really good at hiding.

He's probably in one of those boxes circled earlier 🙄better let the IDF know, save them searching all around looking for him.

stormy4319trevor · 16/11/2023 21:10

@whatswrongwiththeworldddd I agree. IDF know where the tunnels are. No need for them to hunt about, very strange,

Trulywonderful · 16/11/2023 21:09

If you watch the interviews and tours of the tunnels Hamas has given over the years all is explained in them

However I will tell you what happens briefly. The first thing they do is blindfold the interviewer and cameraman. Then obviously filming is stopped. However the interviewer once unblindfolded tells us they have worked through what felt like miles of tunnels.

Hamas are not stupid they don't let outsiders see where the entrances to their main tunnels are. They also walk people around for ages to make sure they are too disorientated to work out the direction they walked in. As for the chambers under the hospital it is very likely the old entrances were collapsed and built over. The IDF seems to think they found one on a satellite image. However that might only be to a smaller chamber, who knows.

Noelectricheating · 16/11/2023 21:06

Trulywonderful · 16/11/2023 20:43

It has lightened the mood and given us all a laugh though. So you have to thank OP for that

Just an idea maybe OP is Piers Corbyn 😁

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Alcemeg · 16/11/2023 21:05

Well in that case why hasn't the IDF gone straight there and caught Hamas already? If Grant can get there then so can the IDF.

I believe Grant set up a whole network there (he had to become fluent in Arabic, but you've seen these EastEnders on Strictly, they pick things up very quickly) and set up an important meeting with a really lovely banquet and had all the hostages lined up, all healthy and just waiting to walk out, and Hamas ready to shake hands with everyone, but Netanyahu told IDF not to accept the invitation because he prefers to wipe out Palestine. Something like that, anyway.

noblegiraffe · 16/11/2023 21:05

So you are a rocket expert after a 'quick google of rockets'?

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 16/11/2023 21:04

@noblegiraffe

Rockets look like rockets? Are you a rocket expert and know about different rocket brands? I don't. No idea.

A quick google search will show you not all missile rockets look the same. I highly doubt Hamas would have the same level of weapons used by the IDF.

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Humdingerydoo · 16/11/2023 21:03

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 16/11/2023 20:58

Well in that case why hasn't the IDF gone straight there and caught Hamas already? If Grant can get there then so can the IDF.

A better idea would have been to use and release body cam footage of the evidence they found as soon as they found it. Not after finding them.

Hamas have booby-trapped the tunnels. Just like they did homes and slaughtered bodies in Israel on 7th October. IDF are obviously not going to willingly walk in to a trap 🤦🏻‍♀️

Why bother with body cams? Hamas used then and people still deny the atrocities they committed. And anyway, they obviously can't show live footage as it would put their soldiers in danger. Do you really not understand that?

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 16/11/2023 21:01

Humdingerydoo · 16/11/2023 20:37

Come on @whatswrongwiththeworldddd , enough now. You really shouldn't start a thread about misinformation and then go on spreading a bunch of it yourself. Stop spreading your own theories and start spreading facts instead. It's honestly ridiculous.

If the video wasn't staged, why edit a video you said wasn't cut or edited?

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 16/11/2023 20:58

Trulywonderful · 16/11/2023 20:35

You can find videos of Hamas conducting interviews from their tunnels on YouTube. They have even given journalists little tours of their tunnel next work. I mean even Grant from Eastenders got to go have a look and did a documentary on the tunnels. A lot of links to YouTube or interviews or information about them was on the thread about Hamas Tunnels. Israel knows there are definitely chambers built below the hospital because they used them themselves before 2005. It makes total sense that they have information saying Hamas now uses these ready made tunnels and chamber. If I was Hamas I would have picked them to use too as they are better constructed than the ones fighters build themselves.

Well in that case why hasn't the IDF gone straight there and caught Hamas already? If Grant can get there then so can the IDF.

A better idea would have been to use and release body cam footage of the evidence they found as soon as they found it. Not after finding them.

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OuiOuiKitty · 16/11/2023 20:50

Trulywonderful · 16/11/2023 20:35

You can find videos of Hamas conducting interviews from their tunnels on YouTube. They have even given journalists little tours of their tunnel next work. I mean even Grant from Eastenders got to go have a look and did a documentary on the tunnels. A lot of links to YouTube or interviews or information about them was on the thread about Hamas Tunnels. Israel knows there are definitely chambers built below the hospital because they used them themselves before 2005. It makes total sense that they have information saying Hamas now uses these ready made tunnels and chamber. If I was Hamas I would have picked them to use too as they are better constructed than the ones fighters build themselves.

Yet the IDF can't find them? Maybe they should have called Grant in to search the hospital. I swear the IDF are the dumbest army in the world. Can't find the headquarters at the hospital, even though they did a wee Minecraft style video of where they are. Can't read Arabic so can't tell the difference between people's names and the days of the week. Have used 40 bombs an hour since the start of the conflict but Hamas are still firing at Israel. What on earth do they use all of their aid money for? It certainly isn't training up their army that's for sure. Maybe they use it on dance lessons for all of their tiktoks. A joke of an 'army'.

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noblegiraffe · 16/11/2023 20:47

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 16/11/2023 20:25

The missiles in this video look awfully like the ones in the videos they posted of them writing on.

x.com/IDF/status/1725188551321461026?s=20

Rockets look like rockets? Are you a rocket expert and know about different rocket brands? I don't. No idea.

One thing I've learned from extensive research of conspiracy websites is that they will show you a picture and then ask you a question like 'don't these look like Israeli rockets?' or 'does this look to you like a plane hit the Pentagon?' Or 'do you think if a plane hit the tower it would collapse like this?' Or 'if millions of Jews were supposedly killed during the Holocaust, why are the concentration camp ID numbers only six digits?'

And because you don't have the particular expertise to answer the question with any accuracy, you end up concluding what they want you to conclude. You need more knowledge than your average person possesses to actually answer the question properly, so you end up duped. People should look out for it.

Except the boxes thing, that's just stupid.