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Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 13/11/2023 17:44

There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

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Thereissomelight · 10/01/2024 10:36

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 10:34

So some people cashed in on their advanced knowledge of the attack, is your claim. Hamas are the ones who knew the attack was going to happen, right? So you think they deliberately profited from it?

I don’t know who owned the shares.
Presumably Bank Leumi knows but they haven’t said.

DownNative · 10/01/2024 10:35

I repeat, any attempt to try to distract from fake news regarding Israelis making millions from short selling ahead of 7th October 2023 is blatant anti-semitism.

Especially when it seeks to distract attention away from Hamas. Funny that(!)

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 10:34

So some people cashed in on their advanced knowledge of the attack, is your claim. Hamas are the ones who knew the attack was going to happen, right? So you think they deliberately profited from it?

Thereissomelight · 10/01/2024 10:29

Ok. Tel Aviv is very keen to discredit the short selling story
and Josh Mitts (despite the error relating to trading currency used in Israel) is equally keen to stand by his findings that the numbers of the US based Bank Leumi shares short sold remain unusually high.

DownNative · 10/01/2024 10:07

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 09:53

I did. It refers to a 'meticulous' report which has since been discredited due to a howling maths error.

Yes, and the researcher in question has been discredited in the past on short selling too.

https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/2cki5x5eoic5m5xkuxq0w/culture/josh-mitts-tries-to-prove-short-sellers-profited-from-war-in-the-middle-east-but-he-made-a-big-mistake

I repeat, any attempt to try to distract from fake news regarding Israelis making millions from short selling ahead of 7th October 2023 is blatant anti-semitism.

Especially when it seeks to distract attention away from Hamas. Funny that(!)

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Josh Mitts Tries to Prove Short Sellers Profited From War in the Middle East — But He Made a Big Mistake

“Trading on Terror” research paper by Columbia law professor exaggerated profits 100-fold.

https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/2cki5x5eoic5m5xkuxq0w/culture/josh-mitts-tries-to-prove-short-sellers-profited-from-war-in-the-middle-east-but-he-made-a-big-mistake

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 09:53

Thereissomelight · 10/01/2024 09:43

Ok, don’t read my link.

I did. It refers to a 'meticulous' report which has since been discredited due to a howling maths error.

DownNative · 10/01/2024 09:50

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 09:40

Good grief. This is now wilful ignorance.

Absolutely anything to distract from the fake news headline blaming Israelis when the REAL headline was questioning Hamas.

Intent is clear as day.....🤷‍♂️

Thereissomelight · 10/01/2024 09:47

Or the findings by NYU and Colombia Universities.
The short selling in Tel Aviv has been downplayed by Israel but hopefully the linked but far less deniable short selling in the US will continue to be investigated.
Anyone interested can look up the findings of the NYU and Colombia researchers.

Thereissomelight · 10/01/2024 09:43

Ok, don’t read my link.

DownNative · 10/01/2024 09:40

Thereissomelight · 10/01/2024 09:28

The shares were sold all right.
It’s a question of who sold them.

Demonstrates you've blatantly NOT read the Full Fact article. Important excerpts below:

"The screenshot of an article purportedly by Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper, which has also been circulating on Instagram, carries the headline “Israelis Made Millions Betting Against Israeli Shares Before October 7 Massacre!”, and is credited to reporter Ido Baum on 4 December.

However, the text of the headline has been digitally altered.

The real headline of the article, which was published by Haaretz and authored by Ido Baum on 4 December questioned: “Did Hamas Make Millions Betting Against Israeli Shares Before October 7 Massacre?”

There is no record of the faked headline on the Haaretz website. An archived version of the real article shows it hasn’t been titled anything else since publication on 4 December."

So, it's fake news it was "Israelis Made Millions Betting Against Israeli Shares Before October 7 Massacre!”.

Anything else is clearly anti-semitic behaviour and pushing a very classic trope too. 🤔

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 09:40

Good grief. This is now wilful ignorance.

DownNative · 10/01/2024 09:33

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No, it's 100% fake news as explained by Full Fact.

https://fullfact.org/online/fake-headline-Israeli-shares/

Continuing to push fake news as true in this instance IS a clear example of anti-semitic behaviour. Having seen a few of your posts now I'm back for a bit I can only conclude your goal is very clear.....🤦‍♂️

Headline about Israelis selling shares ahead of 7 October attack is fake - Full Fact

Contrary to a screenshot circulating on social media, an Israeli newspaper did not publish a headline claiming Israelis made millions shorting shares ahead of the 7 October attacks.

https://fullfact.org/online/fake-headline-Israeli-shares

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 09:29

You don't appear to have noticed they used the equivalent of £ when they should have used p when calculating the value of the shares.

Thereissomelight · 10/01/2024 09:28

XRAYTHIS · 10/01/2024 09:04

Why would Israel investigate a story that turned out to be fake?

The shares were sold all right.
It’s a question of who sold them.

Girahim · 10/01/2024 09:25

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XRAYTHIS · 10/01/2024 09:20

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 09:06

It is worth noting that the original headline was "Did Hamas Make Millions Betting Against Israeli Shares Before October 7 Massacre?"

So there was a short-selling story, it's just the culprits have been switched.

The short-selling story itself was based on a miscalculation and that's why the investigation was dropped.

Thanks for that, I wasn't aware of original.

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 09:06

It is worth noting that the original headline was "Did Hamas Make Millions Betting Against Israeli Shares Before October 7 Massacre?"

So there was a short-selling story, it's just the culprits have been switched.

The short-selling story itself was based on a miscalculation and that's why the investigation was dropped.

XRAYTHIS · 10/01/2024 09:04

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Why would Israel investigate a story that turned out to be fake?

XRAYTHIS · 10/01/2024 09:01

DownNative · 10/01/2024 08:40

Yep. How about this for blatant anti-semitic material?

Fake Israeli newspaper headline claiming Israelis shorted shares ahead of 7th October 2023. 🤦‍♂️

https://fullfact.org/online/fake-headline-Israeli-shares/

So this was a fake headline yet people are still suggesting it's true. Its difficult to correct original stories since many move on to the next story.

The hospital that was apparently blown up turned out to be a misfires rocket from hamas.

Tic toc and x and Instagram users share, react and then form opinion on fake stories that continue to be shared.

Then there is the conspiracy theorists who suggest the correction is a lie...

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 09:00

It would make sense that Hamas would bet on the market against Israel in the days before launching a terrorist attack, however the authors of the report appear to have made a colossal miscalculation in the amount of money involved.

Thereissomelight · 10/01/2024 08:49

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DownNative · 10/01/2024 08:40

XRAYTHIS · 09/01/2024 23:20

Wow. So many fake tic tocs and things on X all there to generate hate

Yep. How about this for blatant anti-semitic material?

Fake Israeli newspaper headline claiming Israelis shorted shares ahead of 7th October 2023. 🤦‍♂️

https://fullfact.org/online/fake-headline-Israeli-shares/

Headline about Israelis selling shares ahead of 7 October attack is fake - Full Fact

Contrary to a screenshot circulating on social media, an Israeli newspaper did not publish a headline claiming Israelis made millions shorting shares ahead of the 7 October attacks.

https://fullfact.org/online/fake-headline-Israeli-shares

XRAYTHIS · 09/01/2024 23:20

DownNative · 09/01/2024 21:25

Video claiming to show Israeli tank being destroyed was fake.

Not even real. 🤷‍♂️

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-israel-hamas-war-false-video-game-airstrike-317373435066

Wow. So many fake tic tocs and things on X all there to generate hate

etmoiandme · 09/01/2024 22:33

@Tripper79 Agree.