Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

part of it could be the sources used to get the evidence, eg undercover operatives and revealing the evidence could reveal the operatives.

Thats the issue, how can people have structured debates and presume to follow the guidelines if they are open ended.

Another pro Israel supporter giving explicit gory details. Again. And again.

Yes, Jeremy Bowen obviously thinks it’s bs, but can’t say so. I think this extract from his report speaks volumes, as does the rest of it.

The evidence Israel has produced, so far, I do not believe to be convincing in terms of the kind of rhetoric Israelis were using about the set-up at the hospital, which suggested this was a nerve centre for the Hamas operation.

If there was a nerve centre there - and there has been speculation about that possibility since 2014 - then the Israelis have not yet revealed definitive evidence of its existence to the outside world.
Jeremy Bowen - BBC website.

What about the baby burnt in a kitchen oven, the IDF too?

deir yassin

I understand what you mean. It's because most of those guidelines are open to interpretation.

Do you think the IDF also cut off an 8 years old fingers, sawed off his sister foot, rapped their mother and and cut off her breasts, before killing them all?
What about the baby burnt in a kitchen oven, the IDF too?

https://fullfact.org/news/israeli-helicopter-shooting-civilians-music-festival/

Saw this and thought of this thread.

Its unusual at times depending on the different threads that some posts get deleted and then when other posters point out that no guidelines were broken, then it seems it depends more on the admin at the time etc,

I am sure it wasn’t just the IDF at all, but more likely a result of all round unpredictability and chaos. There were also ordinary Palestinians who got through and ran amok.

What a horrific thing happened,

This is more about the own fire. I don’t know how to fact check it though.
October 7 testimonies reveal Israel’s military ‘shelling’ Israeli citizens with tanks, missiles - The Grayzone

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/

Yes, I think the more we find out about the truth behind Israel's lies, the more we realise that nothing bad actually happened on 7 October, or at least we begin to understand that most of the damage done was entirely by the IDF.

Blimey, I've heard about rewriting history. But normally people wait more than a few days or weeks to do it.

@PurpleCrocs3 @ScrollingLeaves

It does raid the question of whether Hamas did burn victims like it was reported or if it was the IDF all along.

PurpleCrocs3 · Today 16:27

x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1725464800157749598?s=46&t=H7RsBMUqqEi6HTuLgy64hg

*"Israel now admits some 200 of the bodies they said were Israelis turned out to be "so badly burned" bodies of "Hamas terrorists"!+

The question then is: who burned them?!?"

Are these bodies from Oct 7th?

Apparently IDF apache helicopters fired at houses where they thought Hamas terrorists were. The houses burnt up. A lot of burning was caused by the IDF, not Hamas.

Some of the Israelis killed were killed as part of the IDF trying to kill terrorists who were in houses with hostages.

They also shot at cars.

I’ll try to find where I read this but it was a week or so ago.

There were also Israeli tanks shooting.
(mentioned in account by Israeli Jasmine Porat):
www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231021-israel-settler-israel-forces-killed-hostages-not-hamas/

There is something here:
“Israeli Apache helicopters killed own soldiers, civilians on 7 October: ReportNew footage corroborates previous reports that say the Israeli military is responsible for many of the Israeli casualties during the first day of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood”
NOV 9, 2023
https://new.thecradle.co/articles-id/11993

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Yes, I saw that video a few days ago. I actually had goosebumps when I watched it.

💙 Erreala 🤍

im a proud supporter of this football team who has gone against Spanish FA and supported Palestine in their last few matches

this one was a few days ago

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzgoNShoR9C/

the words at the end of the video mean
silence = complicity

Good. About time.

BBC starting to have their doubts
https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1725481914562121794

Ireland knows how oppression feels.

@OuiOuiKitty
As Israel bombs Gaza, Ireland’s enduring support of Palestine gets stronger https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/17/as-israel-bombs-gaza-irelands-enduring-support-of-palestine-gets-stronger

Unfortunately that's true. Hopefully justice and law will prevail this time (I am an optimistic person 😶)