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Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 13/11/2023 17:44

There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 18/11/2023 14:56

I saw the post but I didn't see images posted?

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ScrollingLeaves · 18/11/2023 14:55

noblegiraffe · Today 14:48

I've never said I'm fine with Israel carrying out atrocities, in fact I have said the opposite. You crack on.

I get that you just want trigger warnings and no gratuitous gore which is fair enough.

imo though, ohlalalala was simply posting a very important and freely available news item, in which the image was included.

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 14:55

You know what else isn't appropriate? Blowing up children.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 14:53

A MN has complained about the truth being posted.

I complained about distressing images being posted.

They obviously would rather hide from reality.

You might be desperate to post images of injured children on MN, but I think it is entirely reasonable to think that on a parenting website of all places, that might not be appropriate.

FourCandlesNotForkHandles · 18/11/2023 14:51

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What a truly disgusting post.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/11/2023 14:49

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What an unpleasant thing to say given the poster is in good faith. The image/video was linked to a major news channel which I for one had seen on the television this morning too.

By the way if anyone comes in here who does not know yet, a school where hundreds of Palestinians were sheltering, was bombed by Israel and this lead to carnage, as one might expect.

The image/video was linked to news about that particular bombing raid.

FourCandlesNotForkHandles · 18/11/2023 14:49

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 14:34

Why was my post deleted @MNHQ ? Are we allowed to post from X and Instagram but not from AlJazeera Arabic?

Edit: Just read the explanation given for deleting my post (distressing image). Could you please return my post without the image?

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We ve seen those appalling images on Al Jazeera English in the video footage.
They haven’t taken that down MNHQ
Plus the person with the camera passing women and tiny children dead side by side, men checking to see if little children and babies are still alive.
Entire families massacred.

A MN has complained about the truth being posted.
They obviously would rather hide from reality.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 14:48

I've never said I'm fine with Israel carrying out atrocities, in fact I have said the opposite. You crack on.

Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 14:47

Fine with Israel carrying out these atrocities. Just don't want to have to look at them.

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 14:46

I posted it for all those who have been inundating this thread with their questioning of the Palestinian casualties and talking about actors and fake injuries. How could anyone do that!

Seriously, are you so intent on absolving the genociders' crimes that you question the suffering of innocent Palestinians? The killing of babies and children by the thousands?

Ok, here it is, see for yourselves:

Trigger alert; extremely distressing images from the latest strike of IDF on a school full of babies, children and refugees.

تقديرات بسقوط 200 شهيد.. مجزرة جديدة في مدرسة الفاخورة بغزة https://www.aljazeera.net/news/2023/11/18/%d8%aa%d9%82%d8%af%d9%8a%d8%b1%d8%a7%d8%aa-%d8%a8%d8%b3%d9%82%d9%88%d8%b7-200-%d8%b4%d9%87%d9%8a%d8%af-%d9%85%d8%ac%d8%b2%d8%b1%d8%a9-%d8%ac%d8%af%d9%8a%d8%af%d8%a9-%d9%81%d9%8a

Are those actors? Is this a horror movie set?

Please justify this now.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 14:43

MN isn't a forum for posting distressing images. They get to decide and they decided no, which is an entirely reasonable stance.

mixgoal · 18/11/2023 14:41

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Lobster7 · 18/11/2023 14:38

God forbid anyone has to see a distressing image. Imagine if you had to live it. Shame on anyone still supporting these monsters.

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 14:38

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 14:37

I reported it because I don't believe that distressing images should be posted without any warning on the open site.

I think there's a sensitive image option but I've never used it so I don't know how it works.

I didn't want the picture to be there. It's a link:

تقديرات بسقوط 200 شهيد.. مجزرة جديدة في مدرسة الفاخورة بغزة https://www.aljazeera.net/news/2023/11/18/%d8%aa%d9%82%d8%af%d9%8a%d8%b1%d8%a7%d8%aa-%d8%a8%d8%b3%d9%82%d9%88%d8%b7-200-%d8%b4%d9%87%d9%8a%d8%af-%d9%85%d8%ac%d8%b2%d8%b1%d8%a9-%d8%ac%d8%af%d9%8a%d8%af%d8%a9-%d9%81%d9%8a

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 14:37

I reported it because I don't believe that distressing images should be posted without any warning on the open site.

I think there's a sensitive image option but I've never used it so I don't know how it works.

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 14:34

Why was my post deleted @MNHQ ? Are we allowed to post from X and Instagram but not from AlJazeera Arabic?

Edit: Just read the explanation given for deleting my post (distressing image). Could you please return my post without the image?

mixgoal · 18/11/2023 14:34

aeterofax · 14/11/2023 22:54

Never heard of AIPAC, I see. Or what Likud wants.

@æterofax

What does this mean?

etmoiandme · 18/11/2023 14:25

etmoiandme · 18/11/2023 13:31

Amen to all of that.

Also frustrating to see posters linking to electronic intifada as a serious source on a thread about misinformation. An oxymoron to say the least.

If you are genuine about objectively discussing and calling out misinformation, then you might want to ditch the Electronic Intifada as your serious source of information.

https://twitter.com/mikekatz/status/1725877371515834507

https://twitter.com/mikekatz/status/1725877371515834507

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 13:59

Where's the outrage???? How is this still possible in 2023???? How? Why?

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 13:57

Shame on anyone justifying what the monsters are doing. Shame on humanity for allowing this to happen.

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 13:56

This is a school!!!!!

Ohlalalalala · 18/11/2023 13:55

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We've removed this post due to the distressing image in the link preview.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 18/11/2023 13:49

Takoneko · 18/11/2023 13:36

I didn’t say “trust what comes out of Israel’s mouth”… I said “both sides’ claims need serious scrutiny”.

Some people seem to only want to scrutinise the claims of one side. I’ve posted numerous examples of pro-Palestinian sources using faked or miscaptioned footage to support their narrative. Why doesn’t the “crying wolf” rule apply to that side too? Pro-Palestinian sources are just as guilty of misinformation as pro-Israeli ones. Hamas claims need to be treated with a very sceptical eye, no different to the claims of the IDF.

I know that's not what you said and I didn't say you did. It's what I'm saying.

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noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 13:40

Also frustrating to see posters linking to electronic intifada as a serious source on a thread about misinformation.

Indeed, that website is a shitshow. It's hard to see how anyone could go there and not recognise that it's not a news site but a propaganda site. I remember when Asa Winstanley was kicked out of Labour for antisemitism and the only surprise was that he lasted so long. Perhaps people didn't realise he was a Labour member.

Takoneko · 18/11/2023 13:36

I didn’t say “trust what comes out of Israel’s mouth”… I said “both sides’ claims need serious scrutiny”.

Some people seem to only want to scrutinise the claims of one side. I’ve posted numerous examples of pro-Palestinian sources using faked or miscaptioned footage to support their narrative. Why doesn’t the “crying wolf” rule apply to that side too? Pro-Palestinian sources are just as guilty of misinformation as pro-Israeli ones. Hamas claims need to be treated with a very sceptical eye, no different to the claims of the IDF.