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Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 13/11/2023 17:44

There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

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HaveALaff · 21/11/2023 20:52

Girahim · 21/11/2023 20:49

Not going to download a pdf with an undescriptive name from an undescriptive link, that's dodgy as hell.

Yes I posted the name of the report. Have a look at it.

Girahim · 21/11/2023 20:49

Not going to download a pdf with an undescriptive name from an undescriptive link, that's dodgy as hell.

HaveALaff · 21/11/2023 20:43

For those who do not want to open the link please search for: the treatment of detained Palestinian children by the Israeli authorities. It is a report into the awful crimes committed by Israel.

Some posters can't condemn Israel for this and it's very scary.

HaveALaff · 21/11/2023 20:39

Girahim · 21/11/2023 18:01

Because I think people who kidnap others are bad it means I think Israel are angels? That's a leap, is all your thinking that black and white?

Hamas have taken hostages and have said they have taken hostages. In the past they have treated hostages well but we do not know how the current hostages will be treated. I do not agree with this and it is wrong.

The Israel government takes hostages (including children) and practices torture methods on them. Children have their heads flushed down toilets, have their parents being beaten and can hear them, have intense interrogations (lasting 7 hours in some cases) and are subject to physical abuse. They are held in prisons without any charge.

I am just stating facts.

Girahim · 21/11/2023 18:01

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 21/11/2023 17:36

@Girahim clearly you're one of those people who think Israel are angels in all of this. Do you think 7/10 would have happened if Netanyahu took the warnings seriously?

Because I think people who kidnap others are bad it means I think Israel are angels? That's a leap, is all your thinking that black and white?

FourCandlesNotForkHandles · 21/11/2023 17:48

Girahim · 21/11/2023 17:32

They both belong to the same groups monsters who take innocent civilians hostage.

Along with the thousands of Palestinian workers taken by the Israeli Government.
Lets hope Netanyahu doesnt delay further on the release of all hostages on both sides

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 21/11/2023 17:36

@Girahim clearly you're one of those people who think Israel are angels in all of this. Do you think 7/10 would have happened if Netanyahu took the warnings seriously?

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Girahim · 21/11/2023 17:32

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 17:12

I understood that those that got her through hell were those that kidnapped her and not those that kept her hostage

They both belong to the same groups monsters who take innocent civilians hostage.

Girahim · 21/11/2023 17:31

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 21/11/2023 17:24

You could also argue that Israel had a part to play in the kidnapping of the hostages as they ignored the warnings that were given to them before and here you see that Yocheved is angry at them for it.

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No, I think I'll blame the people who did the kidnapping thanks.

And I know you're enthusiastic about defending these kidnapping scum but no need to post the video three times.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 21/11/2023 17:24

You could also argue that Israel had a part to play in the kidnapping of the hostages as they ignored the warnings that were given to them before and here you see that Yocheved is angry at them for it.

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EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 17:12

Girahim · 21/11/2023 17:01

She also said they put her through hell. And thst she was beaten with sticks. And it's unlikely she was going to publicly talk shit about the people whobhave her husband and over a hundred other people besides. And in any case it doesn't matter if they put them up in five star hotels, they still took them fucking hostage.

And yes, most of the usernames who were making excuses and praising the captors for how well they treated the captives haven't popped up much since.

I understood that those that got her through hell were those that kidnapped her and not those that kept her hostage

Girahim · 21/11/2023 17:01

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 16:39

certain posters on here who mostly seem to not be around anymore = those that have been defending Palestinian citizens we are still here a month after
however , many accounts pro Israel keep coming day after day demanding us to say whether we are pro Hamas or not.

also, those were her words , you can say she was threatened about her husband being killed. Maybe it’s the reason why she said it. But they were her words so when we talk about her that’s what we say

She also said they put her through hell. And thst she was beaten with sticks. And it's unlikely she was going to publicly talk shit about the people whobhave her husband and over a hundred other people besides. And in any case it doesn't matter if they put them up in five star hotels, they still took them fucking hostage.

And yes, most of the usernames who were making excuses and praising the captors for how well they treated the captives haven't popped up much since.

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 16:39

Girahim · 21/11/2023 15:48

Propaganda fail? You mean when certain posters on here who mostly seem to not be around anymore were falling over themselves to say how well she was treated by the people who took her hostage in the middle of a massacre and still have her husband?

certain posters on here who mostly seem to not be around anymore = those that have been defending Palestinian citizens we are still here a month after
however , many accounts pro Israel keep coming day after day demanding us to say whether we are pro Hamas or not.

also, those were her words , you can say she was threatened about her husband being killed. Maybe it’s the reason why she said it. But they were her words so when we talk about her that’s what we say

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 16:35

Iwantcakeeveryday · 21/11/2023 15:47

But let's look at how the Israeli forces have treated the Palestinian prisoners and then let's see how Hamas have treated theirs for comparison.

Are you for real? Hamas haven't got prisoners, they're hostages. Hamas are a terrorist organisation, you say you don't support them but you are forever trying to excuse or minimise what they are and what their intentions are, by saying ' but Israel'.

Someone that has been arrested without proving they’ve done anything wrong and that are not allowed even to have lawyer / court is a hostage of the Israel system.

Girahim · 21/11/2023 15:48

notsoready4school · 21/11/2023 15:15

I wonder what we will hear from the hostages that will be hopefully be released shortly. The propaganda fail that happened with Yocheved Lifshitz will not be allowed to happen that way again but I wonder if there will be further information on the scale of the Israeli firing at Israeli civilians.

Propaganda fail? You mean when certain posters on here who mostly seem to not be around anymore were falling over themselves to say how well she was treated by the people who took her hostage in the middle of a massacre and still have her husband?

Iwantcakeeveryday · 21/11/2023 15:47

But let's look at how the Israeli forces have treated the Palestinian prisoners and then let's see how Hamas have treated theirs for comparison.

Are you for real? Hamas haven't got prisoners, they're hostages. Hamas are a terrorist organisation, you say you don't support them but you are forever trying to excuse or minimise what they are and what their intentions are, by saying ' but Israel'.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 21/11/2023 15:45

@Bigminnie1 for your information I don't condone what Hamas did on 7/10. I didn't say they were lovely people.
But let's look at how the Israeli forces have treated the Palestinian prisoners and then let's see how Hamas have treated theirs for comparison.

The video below is graphic so do be warned but it depicts the Ill treatment of Palestinian prisoners who have been brutally tortured, burnt, and beaten.

www.instagram.com/reel/Cz4U4i2SwRK/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

You expect us to condemn Hamas for the attack on 7/10 and for kidnapping the hostages but you won't condemn Israel for their part on 7/10 where they killed some civilians and the ongoing genocide.

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Bigminnie1 · 21/11/2023 15:37

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 21/11/2023 15:24

@notsoready4school yes it will be very interesting to see. They'll probably be prepped into told what to say or not to say to avoid the propaganda fail as last time.

Oh yes of course, Hamas are just such lovely people and are no doubt looking after the hostages so well. Didn't they look after the people they massacred so well too? How lovely of them to take babies, children, elderly and more and hold them as hostages.

What the hell are you talking about? Of course Yocheved wasn't going to speak terribly about the hostages when they were still holding her husband and a ton of other hostages.

You are talking shit- and showing support for a terrorist organisation.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 21/11/2023 15:24

@notsoready4school yes it will be very interesting to see. They'll probably be prepped into told what to say or not to say to avoid the propaganda fail as last time.

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notsoready4school · 21/11/2023 15:15

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 20/11/2023 12:04

We already know from various media reports that the IDF did in fact kill some civilians on 7/10 as it was hard to distinguish between Hamas and civilians.

I wonder what we will hear from the hostages that will be hopefully be released shortly. The propaganda fail that happened with Yocheved Lifshitz will not be allowed to happen that way again but I wonder if there will be further information on the scale of the Israeli firing at Israeli civilians.

FourCandlesNotForkHandles · 20/11/2023 17:16

Roste · 20/11/2023 17:02

I thought I would share this powerful speech at the UN for those who are interested
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cz2mntYtxCm/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==

Thankyou @Roste for posting
I think we should advice all those MNs on here who care for humanity that they will find this article very distressing. There are no shocking images, the lady speaks the truth and her words are heartbreaking.

Personally I only got part way through as it’s so upsetting. I will have to return later.
Thankyou so much for posting

Roste · 20/11/2023 17:02

I thought I would share this powerful speech at the UN for those who are interested
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cz2mntYtxCm/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cz2mntYtxCm/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 20/11/2023 12:04

We already know from various media reports that the IDF did in fact kill some civilians on 7/10 as it was hard to distinguish between Hamas and civilians.

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 20/11/2023 12:00

Here's another taken from Mossad Commantry on X.

Here they claim that

"The Palestinian Authority deleted from the website and Facebook the post that accuses the Israel Defence Forces of killing participants of the Nova Party but forgot to delete it from Twitter"

x.com/MOSSADil/status/1726331794684035283?s=20

I took the liberty of visiting The State of Palestine's X Page and translated the document using Google Lens. This is the translation of said document:

Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates State of Palestine
Foreign affairs and expatriates //
The occupation army’s evacuation of the Shifa complex is the most horrific form of genocide continuing in the northern Gaza Strip
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates condemns in the strongest terms the crime of occupying the Al-Shifa Medical Complex, evacuating the citizens, patients, and medical staff inside it, and converting it into a closed military barracks, and considers it another hideous facet of the crimes of ethnic cleansing and genocide committed by the occupation forces around the clock against Palestinian civilians, their homes, facilities, property, and the components of their human existence. In the Gaza Strip, noting that the evacuation of Al-Shifa Medical Hospital represents an official Israeli attempt to complete the cycles of execution and genocide of any Palestinian presence in Gaza City and the northern Gaza Strip, which also deepens the humanitarian and environmental catastrophe to which the Gaza Strip is exposed and the great pressure to which it is exposed.
It will increase the number of hospitals in the southern Gaza Strip. The Ministry confirms that the evacuation of the Al-Shifa Complex and the ongoing massacres and all forms of genocide are a literal translation of the calls of the extremist Israeli extremists who incite and demand the burning of Gaza, as they previously called for and practiced the burning of Huwwara. These are crimes whose scope the occupation army is gradually expanding to extend to the areas south of the Gaza Strip, within the hearing and sight of the international community. This means committing more massacres against Palestinian civilians and their facilities
And their health and medical centers throughout the Gaza Strip.
18/11/2023
@MOFA. PNAX @PMOFA PALESTINE.MOFA @PMOFA PMOFA

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