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After this there will be silence

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notsoready4school · 11/11/2023 10:13

Are we really just going to just let this happen. I was upset about the protest ban in France but at least he has finally spoken up. When is the UK going to finally say something and stop letting this happen in our name.

This is the moment we have been warning the whole world the Gaza Deputy Health Minister Dr. Youssef Abu Alreesh, currently inside al-Shifa Hospital as it is takes heavy fire from Israeli forces.
Here are his translated comments:

  • This is the moment we have been warning the whole world of, all generators are off, all power sources are out.
  • We have 39 newborns in the incubators, those babies are fighting against death.
  • No one is able to move around the compound, snipers are stationed all over the place in addition to the drones that target and kill any moving person.
  • A few minutes ago one of the engineering team was hit by a sniper, he was hit in the neck and was paralysed and he’s now about to die.
  • Part of the hospital was shelled and part of the building caught fire, we fear it will engulf the whole compound.
  • A few families tried to leave but they were targeted; now they are lying dead outside the hospital. We cannot get to them.
  • We are totally stranded, we are cut off from the outside world, and above all, we are left without any medical resources. We cannot even bury the dead.
  • Ferocious gunfire can be heard within the vicinity of the hospital, the intensive care unit received a mortar shell a few minutes ago.
  • Blood is everywhere, on the floor, we cannot even clean it.
  • In the past, the Israeli killing machine was killing and this was conveyed on TV screens. Now they are perpetrating the same killing but no one is listening, no one is watching, the whole world is standing by.
  • We are speaking with whatever is left of my phone battery, after that, we will be silent.
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Stomacharmeleon · 16/11/2023 11:00

@notsoready4school please give examples of egging on more death'? Would be equally horrified and surprised if that is the case?

Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:58

@PurpleCrocs3 The families of the hostages certainly do have grievances with the government.
Praying this all ends and the hostages and innocent in israli jails are all released and can be reunited with their families

PurpleCrocs3 · 16/11/2023 10:55

Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:52

It really is extremely upsetting.
There was a video of one of the family members of the hostages. He was addressing member of the Israeli government and was very upset. He was saying you keep making statements like 'we will destroy Gaza' and 'we will raze Gaza to the ground' how do you think we feel knowing this is what you intend when our family is inside there
He rightly calls them out on this
Most of these statements that talk about destruction don't say Hamas. They mostly all say 'Gaza'

The Israeli government don't care about the hostages. They are just a means to an end for them.

Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:52

It really is extremely upsetting.
There was a video of one of the family members of the hostages. He was addressing member of the Israeli government and was very upset. He was saying you keep making statements like 'we will destroy Gaza' and 'we will raze Gaza to the ground' how do you think we feel knowing this is what you intend when our family is inside there
He rightly calls them out on this
Most of these statements that talk about destruction don't say Hamas. They mostly all say 'Gaza'

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notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 10:47

Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:39

It's terrible. Absolutely terrible. The destruction they caused to get into Al shifa hospital and for what?
The doctors have repeatedly said there are no headquarters there. They welcomed a third party to come and check too
The BBC report is a clear indicator of what many are thinking
The Al shifa raid has definitely been a tipping point for many

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No tipping point, the only people who can have any say in this ceasefire are the Israelis and you can see from these forums the comments they make. They value Palestinian lives as zero, probably would have more sympathy for a real animal death. And these are the women who post in these forums, often living in the UK so not even in the midst of it. Can’t imagine the response from the males. Despite this they keep going, they keep egging on more deaths with the ‘but Hamas’ why can’t they see how wrong it is.

Most don’t even seem to seek the truth, they are fed lies and are satisfied to keep going on that basis, the number of posters happy with the few guns found and appearing to believe grenades hidden behind MRI scanner!?

I don’t even understand US stance, how, just how can they be so meek. Even their own public statements get ignored and they keep rolling over for Israel

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Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:43

All this time people are saying the IDF is incompetent when really this was what they intended all along
From the horse's mouth

After this there will be silence
Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:39

notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 10:34

The latest news, Herzog comments suggest that this is how it will stay for a long while. Probably with no more hospitals either as all the Palestinians will be forced south with no permission to come back. North Gaza will remain a disaster zone with rubble everywhere and Israel’s ‘strong force’. The only way Israelis feel safe is if they oppress and destroy Palestinians. The only ‘democracy’ in the world where oppression is the foundation of its existence.

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It's terrible. Absolutely terrible. The destruction they caused to get into Al shifa hospital and for what?
The doctors have repeatedly said there are no headquarters there. They welcomed a third party to come and check too
The BBC report is a clear indicator of what many are thinking
The Al shifa raid has definitely been a tipping point for many

Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:37

firstpasttheposter · 16/11/2023 10:29

How horrific that Hamas use a hospital as their headquarters. A ceasefire is impossible now, because then other groups will get the idea that using hospitals to hide weapons is a good way to deter the enemy. But why was more not done by the international community to airlift patients and doctors to safety? We've known about this for weeks! There must never be another war like this again. How did the situation in Israel/Gaza reach this all time low?

Please read that again.

Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:36

firstpasttheposter · 16/11/2023 10:29

How horrific that Hamas use a hospital as their headquarters. A ceasefire is impossible now, because then other groups will get the idea that using hospitals to hide weapons is a good way to deter the enemy. But why was more not done by the international community to airlift patients and doctors to safety? We've known about this for weeks! There must never be another war like this again. How did the situation in Israel/Gaza reach this all time low?

The BBC report shows there was no evidence shown that the hospital was used as Hamas headquarters

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notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 10:34

Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:25

The BBC have been allowed in Al shifa hospital with the IDF. This is the conclusion of their report. The destruction around is so severe it looks like an earthquake zone.

After almost 24 hours securing and searching the hospital, Israel says it has found weapons and other equipment that could help provide information on both Hamas fighters and the hostages. But it has its hands on neither.

We leave the hospital, and rumble down the wide avenue that leads to Gaza's coastal road. Gaza City is now ruled by tanks. The ghostly avenues look in places like an earthquake zone, the destruction is so severe.
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It is clear what it took for Israel to get control of these streets.

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The latest news, Herzog comments suggest that this is how it will stay for a long while. Probably with no more hospitals either as all the Palestinians will be forced south with no permission to come back. North Gaza will remain a disaster zone with rubble everywhere and Israel’s ‘strong force’. The only way Israelis feel safe is if they oppress and destroy Palestinians. The only ‘democracy’ in the world where oppression is the foundation of its existence.

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Xenia · 16/11/2023 10:34

first because time after time its arab neighbours and Palestinians who are against the state of Israel act forcefully against Israel and/or invade it. If they left it in peace it would be fine. Indeed until Hamas decided to wreck the Israel/Saudi deal https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/09/1141302 (which is hopefully not wrecked) Israel's neighbours were at last accepted the democratic nation was here to stay -

Israel on the cusp of historic peace with Saudi Arabia, Netanyahu announces at UN

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced on Friday that Israel is at the cusp of a “dramatic breakthrough”: a historic peace deal between his country and Saudi Arabia.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/09/1141302

firstpasttheposter · 16/11/2023 10:29

How horrific that Hamas use a hospital as their headquarters. A ceasefire is impossible now, because then other groups will get the idea that using hospitals to hide weapons is a good way to deter the enemy. But why was more not done by the international community to airlift patients and doctors to safety? We've known about this for weeks! There must never be another war like this again. How did the situation in Israel/Gaza reach this all time low?

Parkingt111 · 16/11/2023 10:25

The BBC have been allowed in Al shifa hospital with the IDF. This is the conclusion of their report. The destruction around is so severe it looks like an earthquake zone.

After almost 24 hours securing and searching the hospital, Israel says it has found weapons and other equipment that could help provide information on both Hamas fighters and the hostages. But it has its hands on neither.

We leave the hospital, and rumble down the wide avenue that leads to Gaza's coastal road. Gaza City is now ruled by tanks. The ghostly avenues look in places like an earthquake zone, the destruction is so severe.
**
It is clear what it took for Israel to get control of these streets.

SinnerBoy · 16/11/2023 09:24

Towerofsong · Yesterday 20:44

There is still fuel because rockets are still being fired on Israel. Mobile phones are clearly still being charged.

Can you please explain how diesel is used as rocket fuel?

SinnerBoy · 16/11/2023 09:22

Stomacharmeleon · Yesterday 16:29

what do they need to show you if there are tunnels? If you won't accept pictures and film of tunnels? Luckily the worlds intelligence doesn't have to be run past you and other conspiracy theorists.

The Daily Mail has reported today that the IDF has said that they haven't found any tunnels, let alone a command centre.

Auvergne63 · 16/11/2023 09:08

Stomacharmeleon · 15/11/2023 21:27

It's been 24 hours and Hamas themselves have said they have hundreds of miles of tunnels. The IDF don't owe the media massive a super fast explanation they owe a thorough one.
As long as Israel keep up dialogue with Qatar, America and other nations I remain every hopeful they are getting closer to the hostages. Especially the babies and the lady who will have given birth.

And on their way to get to the babies and the lady, the IDF have murdered over 10000 Palestinians ( nearly half of them babies and children), bombed Gaza to ruins, deprived the population of the basic necessity for sustaining life and so on.
Do you think it is morally right and totally justified?

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notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 07:29

US intelligence huh, amazing. They can deduct a handful of guns 1000s of miles away but it can get to this in their own back yard before they discover it.

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notsoready4school · 15/11/2023 23:52

AllWeWantToDo · 15/11/2023 22:02

And we are supposed to believe they are so stupid that they hid grenades behind an MRI scanner. Really

I think you will be surprised how many will. I can’t recall but there was one posters who suggested this could be the tipping point for her but I’m guessing these pictures hit the spot. They do the bare minimum to just keep the facade and ppl who want to believe are happy with that. It’s just enough for them

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Roste · 15/11/2023 22:06

@OneHurtSpaggettio they’ll be saying they’ve found a kids sling shot and some placards saying Down with Israel next.
The current Israeli government think the world is populated by gullible fools and their never ending stream of bs shows their utter contempt for the rest of humanity.

AllWeWantToDo · 15/11/2023 22:02

And we are supposed to believe they are so stupid that they hid grenades behind an MRI scanner. Really

PurpleCrocs3 · 15/11/2023 21:51

I hope no one was using that mri scanner 🙄

stormy4319trevor · 15/11/2023 21:50

It's on the wiki page about Al Shifa hospital. In 1983 Israeli architects designed and built a 'secure underground operating room and tunnel network.' I don't know, seems like the first place the IDF would look, bit silly to operate out of there.

OneHurtSpaggettio · 15/11/2023 21:46

Except it’s not funny because people are actually dying.

OneHurtSpaggettio · 15/11/2023 21:45

Xenia · 15/11/2023 21:37

"Israeli soldiers claim to have found an AK47 and grenades hidden behind an MRI scanner during a raid on the Al Shifa hospital.
Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conricus, spokesman for the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) exhibited the weapons he claimed belonged to Hamas in video footage purportedly taken inside the hospital.
Other pictures show guns, ammunition and body armour which the IDF said were also found in the raid by its elite Shaldag unit and 36th division.
“These findings unequivocally prove that the hospital was used for terror, in complete violation of international law,” spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said.
The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza has denied the claims, saying no weapons were found in the raid."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/11/15/israel-gaza-latest-news-updates-hamas-palestine-day-40-live/

It’s like a comedy sketch.

plants gun “oh look - a gun! This is unequivocal evidence of terrorists!”

Siri: play “Curb your enthusiasm theme tune”