After this there will be silence

You jog on!!! How dare you try and police us, and silence our voices! The days of imperialism when similar genocides were committed across the world by the British are long gone.

If you think that we are going to witness a genocide of this magnitude and horror, and do nothing to fundamentally change the power imbalance that has allowed this to happen, you are well mistaken. People are very, very angry right now and our collective conscience is NOT about to let this slide.

@OneHurtSpaggettio babies have died both sides and it's horrific. Please don't belittle the deaths on 7/10 as you did before though. There was evidence of rape and children murdered. Don't pass the buck. People were in bed asleep and brutalised. Peace loving people.

Remember a lot of these things were sent back and posted on social media. By Hamas.

I am not looking to argue with you but please Don't do that. There is 240 people held hostages babies and toddlers without parents amongst them.

They all deserve your compassion.

You say not to believe Hamas, meanwhile you listen to the Israeli government, a far-right loony bin with ministers who have terrorism charges.

Both the Israeli government and Hamas are terrorists.

If you discount information given by both, and look at the evidence from independent third parties, the truth of what is happening in Gaza is glaringly obvious.

There are plenty of independent doctors who are working in Gaza who have said the truth. There are also independent humanitarian workers who have said the truth.

When did "all staff" say they have always known that? Many foreign doctors, aid agencies and NGOs involved IN the hospital have maintained they have never seen Hamas activity. Dr Mads Gilbert said today he's so sick of this claim. Israeli snipers are shooting into the intensive care unit through the windows. A nurse trying to tend to the babies was shot dead. Where are Hamas?

The past informs the present.

@feralunderclass I get all that. But we need to think what next? Not what happened 75 years ago and there are many people/ countries/ issues who we can point the finger at.

What can we do next should be what we are talking about? We can go back and forth with who is in the wrong but it doesn't solve anything.

And remember who called the Palestinian's 'the Palestinian's'Arafat and what they were called before..... Jordanian's, Syrians etc. we can all argue whose land is whose and let's be frank we don't live like that anymore. Can you imagine if I said that here? We need to move forward not dwell in the past...

...Why?

Considering both Hamas and the Israeli government oppress Gaza, why would this be surprising?

So you can’t say what, if anything, Hamas has done or tried to do to stop the killing of its civilians by a vastly superior military power?

@Gogol253 emotive drivel...... and how is that helpful. Trott of then and let the grown ups chat.

Hamas have plenty of fuel for those hospital generators folks, plenty.

Reported.

Bear in mind your first post is a hamas statement, I would take it with a huge pinch of salt. All staff in the hospital have always known that hamas have their headquarters below the hospital, they also know that the hostages including 30 babies are being held below the hospital. They also had 4 weeks to evacuate and there are now 4 hourly pauses. It is hamas who keep them there under duress because they need human shields. It’s hamas who can end this in an hour by surrendering and giving back the hostages.

As far as I can tell he doesn't appear to be a member of Hamas, but there doesn't seem to be any solid confirmation either way.
However, whether he is or isn't, I don't see it as any justification to target a hospital. If there were 50 terrorists absolutely confirmed to be hiding in a hospital, no doubt about it, the lives of the injured civilians and doctors helping them would not be worth killing those terrorists.

Hamas is responsible for what happened on 07/10 ; the Israeli government for what is happening now.

@ChickHenLittle no you didn’t but you posted in agreement with someone who said posters insinuating that doctors were member of Hamas should fuck off.

The only doctor that posters have insinuated to be Hamas is the deputy health minister who is the dr commenting from inside al Shifa hospital.

I have googled and it’s not clear to me whether he is Hamas affiliated or not, but raising the possibility / asking the question as a number of posters did doesn’t seem unreasonable but genuinely unwell don’t know so was seeking clarification from those posters who seem to have more clarity.

Regardless of collateral damage? Would you be able to look into the eyes of a woman I met today, a woman who has lost 35 members of her family in Gaza and tell her that they were just collateral damage, that your friends were just angry? Jesus wept!

I remember the height of the troubles. I was in hearing distance of the Brighton bomb, in fact.

Do I think the British military covered themselves in glory? No. Do I remember them displacing the bulk of a civilian population, leaving them with at best fragile access to shelter food and water? Or bombing hospitals? Also no.

And, even at the height of the troubles, I do not think there would have been popular support had Thatcher seriously suggested that we do so.

@PegasusReturns I didn't post about anyone specific? Although I'm sure Google would bring up plenty about most people's backgrounds, especially if well-known.