After this there will be silence

You’re right, it’s Fatah in the West Bank, Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Queucumber · Yesterday 21:36

No, there’s hezbollah, funded by Iran.

That's Lebanon, an entirely different country.

Fatah are in the West Bank and are extremely unpopular with the Palestinians, on account of their corruption and willingness to carry out security operations for the Israelis. They do that because they're terrified of being the next Gaza.

That's not only incorrect but an incredibly bold statement to make. Please provide which credible source you have for a)all doctors know about this alleged Hamas base and b) that there are 30 hostage babies being held there along side other hostages

"You are asking Gaza's enemy (Israel) to be more merciful on its citizens then the Gazan leaders (Hamas). How twisted!?"

Actually I don't think it's twisted at all. Absolutely a democracy with international superpower backing ought to behave better than a brutal terrorist dictatorship. In fact I'd say it's twisted to suggest that they shouldn't behave better.

As for Dresden, I'll dig my great grandad up and ask him shall I?

Hamas has tunnels under hospitals. Hamas has a weapons factory within hospitals. Hamas' gunmen are currently hiding in the Shifra Hospital and shooting at the Israeli soldiers from the hospital windows.
There are multiple irrefutable video and photo evidence of this.

Do you really think the Israeli's should stand by and say "Its a hospital let's let them shoot anti-tanks, we'll just ignore!?"

All you people here on MN, saying that Israel is bombing innocent civilians. Don't you see it? - You are asking Gaza's enemy (Israel) to be more merciful on its citizens then the Gazan leaders (Hamas). How twisted!?

I mean, Britain bombed Dresden to get rid of the Nazis, and there were no protests in Trafalgar square!!??

Somehow Israel is held up to some really unfair standards.

Evacuate hundreds of critically injured and disfigured people, many of whom are in intensive care, as well as babies in incubators to where exactly? To one of the other hospitals getting bombed, or…? I would love to know.

“All staff in the hospital have always known that hamas have their headquarters below the hospital, they also know that the hostages including 30 babies are being held below the hospital.”

You’re just making things up as you go along. Multiple hospital staff have refuted the claim that Hamas are there. If they are there, then they’re unaware.

As for the bit about babies being held under the hospital, that is pure fiction. I love that you claim to know where the hostages are.

When was the last pause? Do you know that, too?

You seem to think that Hamas have forced Israel to do despicable things, as if Hamas are somehow now using telekinesis to force the IDF to blow up, maim and torture Palestinian children and babies as they die slowly under rubble. As if that isn’t a choice made by their far-right, terrorist government, that’s part of all the other monstrous decisions that they make.

The fact that you have been reading the news for the past month and think that the Israeli govt give a shit about hostages says a lot. Thousands protesting in Israel disagree with you.
@eardefender

Exactly this. Hamas do not care about their people, not one iota. There’s a lot of propaganda and misinformation on this thread so don’t expect any reasoned response.

Are you aware that Hamas continues to pour rockets on Israel?

If they care about their people, they should announce their own ceasefire. Why is the demand for a ceasefire being targeted at Israel only when Hamas is doing this too?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzhUSAptqf3/?igshid=Y2NkYjk0MDhjYg==
this is what the nasty vile Israeli soldiers are up to. Not a mention about hostages though. I think they don’t care much for any hostages. They just want to kill as many people as possible. Israel has forced the Palestinians into the smallest amount of land. These people are living in such close proximity. These comments you keep spewing about Hamas hiding behind civilians is ridiculous. They have no space because Israel stole Palestinians land. Israel has the most advanced spyware and surveillance technology they can find anyone if they really want to. Israel just want to continue with the genocide

@notsoready4school apart from the black market trade coming through the tunnels eg rockets, race horses. You think it would have better priorities eg feed its people..

Also Israel provide around 13 % of drinking water. Not all.

Completely disagree. After the Manchester Arena attack, I remember seeing a FB post with a picture of a missile with the words written on it 'Love from Manchester'. All I could think of was how awful it was, if that was to be fired it wouldn't land on the terrorists that had committed the atrocity, it would hit innocent children, just like the ones that died after the Ariana Grande concert. So no, I think you're completely wrong. Though, I do think there are people like you and they are the ones that will become the terrorists!

100% this.

The most I saw was that it was a “mistake” because the “optics of it don’t look good” - as in, it’s only bad because, from a PR perspective, it might harm Israel.

The IDF murdering innocent children and babies, it is disgusting. The fact that no israeli supporter can say that is abhorrent.

From the Red Cross about Al-Quds hospital:

We are deeply alarmed to hear that the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) teams at the Al-Quds hospital have again this morning been told to immediately evacuate the hospital. Hospitals are places of help and refuge; they must be protected at all cost.

PRCS’s Al-Quds hospital in Gaza city is caring for hundreds of injured people and bed-ridden, long-term patients. Evacuating patients, including those in intensive care, on life-support and babies in incubators, is close to, if not impossible in the current situation. Our teams also report violent attacks and shelling very close to the hospital further endangering people. Al-Quds Hospital is operated by PRCS, a component of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, and together with other medical missions and facilities are protected under international humanitarian law.

We are deeply concerned about the safety of patients, health care workers and the thousands who have taken refuge in Al-Quds Hospital. Healthcare workers should never be put in front of the impossible dilemma of leaving patients behind or risking their lives staying in the hospital.

https://www.ifrc.org/article/ifrc-statement-evacuation-order-al-quds-hospital-gaza

@Stomacharmeleon so even if there has been a pause, it may not be at times when doctors and medical staff need to leave. They also can’t leave knowing that they may not be able to return. Or if they do leave anyway, they are making the decision to leave an already intensely overwhelmed hospital and all of their patients, to save their own life, which must be a horrific decision to be forced to make.

“We are surrounded, we cannot bury our dead. We are going to create a mass grave within the hospital compound,” he told Al Jazeera.

“We do not have any equipment or machinery to dig the grave. We have to bury these bodies otherwise epidemics will break out. These bodies have been lying on the street for days.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/11/we-are-minutes-away-from-death-gazas-al-shifa-hospital-under-attack

What's happening with the four hour windows? Have they started yet? Can people leave then? I mean staff and people able to leave clearly.

Doctors Without Borders have said that Israel’s constant bombardment of Al Shifa has meant that no medical staff who want to leave the hospital are able to do so safely.

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-11-11-23/h_7a910ee72765394b924b5db36a40fcae

Constant bombardment is keeping staff and patients from evacuating Gaza's largest hospital as resources run thin, according to Doctors Without Borders. Israel's military has acknowledged clashes with Hamas operatives around the Al-Shifa Hospital, but denied firing on or laying siege to the medical center.