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BBC News - Macron calls on Israel to stop killing Gaza's women and babies

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Ohlalalalala · 10/11/2023 21:08

BBC News - Macron calls on Israel to stop killing Gaza's women and babies
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67356581

Macron speaks with the BBC at the Élysée Palace

Macron calls on Israel to stop killing Gaza's women and babies

In an exclusive BBC interview, the French president said a ceasefire would be in Israel's interest.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67356581

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OuiOuiKitty · 10/11/2023 21:59

EasterIssland · 10/11/2023 21:53

Bingo. At the beginning of All this eu wanted to remove financial support from Gaza. Luckily a few countries said no way! Ireland and Spain between them. Who have been really critical with the Israel government.

Yup, the EU lost their minds in the beginning. I don't know what Ursula was thinking going over there and giving her support when some EU countries were opposed to it. Almost a month ago Ireland upped it's aid for 2023 to Palestine by 13million to bring the total to 29million. I'm glad countries like Ireland and Spain aren't screaming into a void anymore but it is incredibly frustrating that it took so long and so many deaths for some countries to see what was obvious to others right from the very start.

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 10/11/2023 21:56

Fizzadora · 10/11/2023 21:11

Why isn't Macron calling on Hamas to stop hiding behind Gaza's women and babies?

He visited Israel a few weeks ago, said that the international effort against ISIS should be expanded to include fighting Hamas and that France was ready to be involved in that. He said the fight against Hamas should be "without mercy but not without rules", and has been strong in his condemnation of Hamas's terrorism. He met with the families of hostages and said that getting hostages back should be a first priority, he called Hamas threatening to execute hostages odious and unacceptable. His government also banned pro-Palestinian protests.

I think his opinion of Hamas and their actions is pretty clear.

TakingTheHorseToFrance · 10/11/2023 21:56

Ireland's politicians have spoken out, they are not the only ones others have as well.

And I'm sick of people commenting oh get Hamas to stop hiding behind the women and children. We know Hamas are awful but the Palestinian infants, children, women and innocent civilians are not hamas - the Palestinians are deal with the brutality and genocide by Israle and also suffering from Hamas sacrificing them.

EasterIssland · 10/11/2023 21:53

OuiOuiKitty · 10/11/2023 21:48

Some other countries have been calling it out for quite a while. Countries like Ireland and Belgium have no power though so it is great that a powerful country like France is standing up and saying enough. Germany, the US and the UK need to follow suit now.

Bingo. At the beginning of All this eu wanted to remove financial support from Gaza. Luckily a few countries said no way! Ireland and Spain between them. Who have been really critical with the Israel government.

Milkandhoneybees · 10/11/2023 21:52

Parkingt111 · 10/11/2023 21:16

It's so shameful that even Macron has the decency to call this out and our own PM is still silent

Quite! For Macron to say that you’ve gone too far against the Muslims is also quite something. Makes his hijab ban look like MuslimHateLite.exe

Efacsen · 10/11/2023 21:49

Trying to shut the gate after the horse has got out

And the horse has already gone on a massive genocidal rampage

Lennon80 · 10/11/2023 21:49

They should call it out for what it is a genocidal land grab

OuiOuiKitty · 10/11/2023 21:48

JustAMinutePleass · 10/11/2023 21:40

Finally someone said it

Some other countries have been calling it out for quite a while. Countries like Ireland and Belgium have no power though so it is great that a powerful country like France is standing up and saying enough. Germany, the US and the UK need to follow suit now.

Parkingt111 · 10/11/2023 21:45

thatone · 10/11/2023 21:44

Well done to him for saying it but it took a lot of deaths for him to reach the humane conclusion.

Exactly
Really I think all of these politicians who are only just starting to speak up now are just saving their own backs
They have realised how deranged Netanyahu is and in future won't want to be seen as being complicit in a genocide

Efacsen · 10/11/2023 21:45

It's becoming increasingly difficult to travel safely to the Rafah crossing and out of Gaza - today the small number of medical evacuees couldn't get there again

So how would that work for over 200 hostages if Hamas simply released them?

thatone · 10/11/2023 21:44

Well done to him for saying it but it took a lot of deaths for him to reach the humane conclusion.

JustAMinutePleass · 10/11/2023 21:40

Finally someone said it

doubleshift · 10/11/2023 21:34

Problem is you can't criticise Israel without being labelled anti-Semitic.

TakeMe2Insanity · 10/11/2023 21:32

Ibizafun · 10/11/2023 21:22

Does a humanitarian pause mean that the hostages get to come home for the weekend? The children and babies?

The humanitarian pause allows the IDF to refuel and restock weapons.

Motorina · 10/11/2023 21:29

OuiOuiKitty · 10/11/2023 21:24

Netanyahu has rejected a deal for the hostages return. He appears to have rejected more than one. Perhaps you should be asking why that is?

One of the frustrating things about the BBC live feed is it's really hard to link back to a story. But, at the time, BBC coverage made clear that a deal on returning the hostages was in the final stages, then Netanyahu launched the ground offensive, and the whole things collapsed.

I'm reasonably confident that, for Netanyahu, the hostages are far more useful held by Hamas where they serve as a justification for the ongoing military response than they would be back home. I do not for a moment think that that is the perspective of the Israeli people and, of course, it doesn't in any way undermine the horror that is taking hostages in the first place. But it is abundantly clear that freeing the hostages is not Netanyahu's first priority.

Parkingt111 · 10/11/2023 21:29

grayhairdontcare · 10/11/2023 21:26

@OuiOuiKitty well then maybe Hamas should do the humanitarian thing and just release them

They most certainly should
Nobody deserves it. Netanyahu would have to agree to pause the fighting for the safe passage of the hostage to be released.
And Israel should also release the minors and innocent palestinians held without charge or trial in Israeli jails

OuiOuiKitty · 10/11/2023 21:27

grayhairdontcare · 10/11/2023 21:26

@OuiOuiKitty well then maybe Hamas should do the humanitarian thing and just release them

Of course they should. Just like Israel should do the humanitarian thing and stop the massacre in Gaza.

grayhairdontcare · 10/11/2023 21:26

@OuiOuiKitty well then maybe Hamas should do the humanitarian thing and just release them

EasterIssland · 10/11/2023 21:25

Wished he also remembered about men. Many are innocent as well.

also , it’s time they start putting the same sanctions they put on Russia. Hit them in their wallets

finally he’s not the first one. I believe irelands pm has criticised loads Israel. I’ve seen someone from Belgium’s government as well. And half of Spanish government (it’s a coalition) have been criticising Israel since the beginning

Malificent1 · 10/11/2023 21:24

About fucking time.

OuiOuiKitty · 10/11/2023 21:24

Ibizafun · 10/11/2023 21:22

Does a humanitarian pause mean that the hostages get to come home for the weekend? The children and babies?

Netanyahu has rejected a deal for the hostages return. He appears to have rejected more than one. Perhaps you should be asking why that is?

MorrisZapp · 10/11/2023 21:22

Bravo Macron

Ibizafun · 10/11/2023 21:22

Does a humanitarian pause mean that the hostages get to come home for the weekend? The children and babies?

Parkingt111 · 10/11/2023 21:17

They will all start saying it now, one by one
But it's already far too late
Shame on all of them for allowing it to reach this stage before they decide to speak up

Parkingt111 · 10/11/2023 21:16

It's so shameful that even Macron has the decency to call this out and our own PM is still silent