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What is the deal with the violence in West Bank ?

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notsoready4school · 10/11/2023 13:31

why does a mentally disabled child throwing stones deserve to be shot from 150 metres away ? The stones couldn’t have even reached them? They can’t possibly be fearing him, he is by himself, they are tons of them and they have cars and guns. How is this justifiable to all these people going on and on supporting a country where these things go on. How is this a country the west considers a democratic ally? How do these values reflect the values of the west?

I understand the outrage of parents wanting the hostages back but Fouads parents will never ever have him back.

The link is to Channel4 reporting Matt Frei

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1722715554274783247?s=20

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1722715554274783247?s=20

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ScrollingLeaves · 23/11/2023 11:41

Re
Palestinian child prisoners under the Israeli military occupation this was posted on another thread. It is a documentary film made before this present conflict.

It is called,
Stone Cold Justice: Israel’s torture of Palestinian children - ABC Australia

“Description
A film which has been produced by a group of Australian journalists has sparked an international outcry against Israel after it explicitly detailed Tel Aviv's use of torture against Palestinian children.

The film, titled ‘Stone Cold Justice’ documents how Palestinian children, who have been arrested and detained by Israeli forces, are subjected to physical abuse, torture and forced into false confessions and pushed into gathering intelligence on Palestinian activists.

Australia's foreign minister Julie Bishop has spoken out against Israeli's use of torture stating that “I am deeply concerned by allegations of the mistreatment of Palestinian children,”

Israel's Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor has described the human rights abuses documented in the film as “intolerable”. But rights groups have slammed this statement, saying that the Israelis are doing nothing to change Tel Aviv's policy to torture Palestinian children. Last year a report by the United Nations International Emergency Children's Fund or UNICEF concluded that Palestinian children are often targeted in night arrests and raids of their homes, threatened with death and subjected to physical violence, solitary confinement and sexual assault. The film Stone Cold Justice has sparked an international outcry about Israel's treatment of children in Israeli jails. However, rights groups have criticized Tel Aviv for not doing anything to create a policy that protects Palestinian children against arbitrary arrest and torture.

This Documentary is produced by ABC Australia and shared via Voice Of East Vimeo -

There is a WARNING that this has upsetting content.

Stone Cold Justice: Israel’s torture of Palestinian children - ABC Australia

A film which has been produced by a group of Australian journalists has sparked an international outcry against Israel after it explicitly detailed Tel Aviv'...

https://youtu.be/cvOSv2fGJ5w?feature=shared

ScrollingLeaves · 23/11/2023 10:59

How is this a country the west considers a democratic ally? How do these values reflect the values of the west?

I don’t know.

I don’t know why this sort of Israeli regime murder of Palestinians has been enabled and supported by the West.

feralunderclass · 23/11/2023 10:13

They are trying to clear the West Bank of Palestinians by either killing them or driving them out by serious violence. The government will then say "they left voluntarily". Ben Gvri (security minister) said the West Bank will become Jewish.

notsoready4school · 23/11/2023 09:45

How predictable… this from 2 minutes ago on Al Jazeera. If they can’t do it in Gaza then any Palestinian is fair game.

where are the voices screaming for 3130 ppl taken hostage to be released!?

Israeli forces launch massive arrest campaign in occupied West Bank
The Palestinian Prisoners’ Club says Israeli forces have arrested 90 Palestinians in the occupied West Bank since last night.
Among them were a woman from Tubas, and former prisoners. 36 of them were from the village of Azzun east of Qalqilya and al-Arroub refugee camp.
Since October 7, 3,130 Palestinians have been arrested in the occupied West Bank.

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EasterIssland · 23/11/2023 06:06

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notsoready4school · 23/11/2023 01:15

I worry whether any truce will result in even more pressure on the West Bank
From Al Jazeera:.

At the moment, the Israeli military are arresting on average around 64 Palestinians every night in the occupied West Bank and the latest death of that 17-year-old youth in Nablus means that there have now been 227 [Palestinians] killed since October 7.

At this rate they will arrest more than any prisoner release within the window

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feralunderclass · 22/11/2023 06:50

Settler violence is escalating and the Palestinians are being forced out of land illegally occupied by settlers. This C4 clip shows the over arching feeling of supremacy that the Israelis have as "God gave us the land". They set up illegal security gate posts as a means to colonize more land.

Inside the Occupied West Bank with Israeli settlers

While the world is focused on Gaza, in the occupied West Bank tension is rising and violence is spiralling. UN figures show that since the 7th October, daily...

https://youtu.be/tpdzX6rVS60?si=zHqOImPcn4vetcf_

feralunderclass · 18/11/2023 09:32

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EasterIssland · 18/11/2023 00:24

Israel is expanding its attack on Palestinian hospitals to the West Bank:

“A number of emergency paramedics in Ibn Sina Hospital in #Jenin were abducted by the IOF. Doctors in the hospital refuse to comply with the IOF's request to evacuate the hospital.

The Red Crescent stated, "Occupation forces have been detaining Palestinian Red Crescent ambulance crews in front of Ibn Sina Hospital in Jenin for 40 minutes until now."”

https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1725397842578018621

feralunderclass · 17/11/2023 12:58

On the news: 205 Palestinians dead. Ibn Sina hospital in Ramallah is under attack, IDF insisting doctors should "surrender" but they are refusing to leave patients. Ambulances have been blocked by tanks from reaching injured.

EasterIssland · 15/11/2023 00:00

EasterIssland · 14/11/2023 14:26

More about the statue

What is the deal with the violence in West Bank ?
notsoready4school · 14/11/2023 19:01

BorgQueen · 13/11/2023 15:28

The problem is that you can no longer believe ANYTHING that’s shown as ‘proof’ of atrocities on either side. There is so much fakery out there.
The war is now online as much as offline.
Unless you happen to see an event in real time, you can’t trust it, even from reputable news agencies.
BBC and C4 have shown fake footage involving the infamous Mr FAFO, more than once so there is obviously no research going on before stuff is aired.
I’ve seen people ‘mourning’ moving body bags, applying fake blood and injuries to babies and children and making them scream. Whether it’s Israeli or Hamas propaganda, who knows but it’s out there by the bucketload.
One thing I do know is that I’ll never give a penny to countries / regimes where the leaders are billionaires who have squandered all the aid, i.e. Hamas.

I don’t think there is anyone questioning the truth that settlers have dramatically stepped up violence and taking land and farms from Palestinians in West Bank since 7/10. What is the point of questioning this particular one?

You might be right that it is questionable that a rabbi is actually speaking up against it, is that what you are questioning?

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BorgQueen · 13/11/2023 15:28

The problem is that you can no longer believe ANYTHING that’s shown as ‘proof’ of atrocities on either side. There is so much fakery out there.
The war is now online as much as offline.
Unless you happen to see an event in real time, you can’t trust it, even from reputable news agencies.
BBC and C4 have shown fake footage involving the infamous Mr FAFO, more than once so there is obviously no research going on before stuff is aired.
I’ve seen people ‘mourning’ moving body bags, applying fake blood and injuries to babies and children and making them scream. Whether it’s Israeli or Hamas propaganda, who knows but it’s out there by the bucketload.
One thing I do know is that I’ll never give a penny to countries / regimes where the leaders are billionaires who have squandered all the aid, i.e. Hamas.

notsoready4school · 13/11/2023 14:09

This is what worries me about calling for ceasefire. Does it suggest back to the status quo. I hope the powers have realise that that is just not going to work.

i think Netanyahu is just trying to hold onto the war as that is the only way he stays in office and out of jail.

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feralunderclass · 13/11/2023 12:44

EasterIssland · 13/11/2023 12:39

Is this the kind of ceasefire we want for Gaza as well? Because to me this doesn’t sound like ceasefire

Yes this is the "peace" that Israel desperately want to go back to, when they've finished obliterating liberating Gaza.

EasterIssland · 13/11/2023 12:39

feralunderclass · 13/11/2023 11:25

167 Palestinians killed in West Bank since 7/10. Occupied West Bank is effectively 'sealed' meaning Palestinians cannot travel for work or access farms. On average 40 raids of Palestinians every night. More than 2,500 have been put into administrative detention, so no charges, no legal rights, no visitation.
It's the funeral today of the 66 year old man who was shot in the head whilst driving near a building being raided. RIP 💔

Is this the kind of ceasefire we want for Gaza as well? Because to me this doesn’t sound like ceasefire

notsoready4school · 13/11/2023 12:29

I don’t think the mainstream news is reporting much, it’s really the tip of the iceberg of what is going on in West Bank.

it needs more coverage.

the reaction to the shot on channel 4 suggested they were quite used to it and I wonder if they value more the ability to report than being silenced for kicking up a fuss.

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feralunderclass · 13/11/2023 11:25

167 Palestinians killed in West Bank since 7/10. Occupied West Bank is effectively 'sealed' meaning Palestinians cannot travel for work or access farms. On average 40 raids of Palestinians every night. More than 2,500 have been put into administrative detention, so no charges, no legal rights, no visitation.
It's the funeral today of the 66 year old man who was shot in the head whilst driving near a building being raided. RIP 💔

StarbucksSmarterSister · 11/11/2023 17:58

feralunderclass · 11/11/2023 16:45

Breaking News: Israel have bombed the occupied city of Hebron in West Bank.

Can you tell me where that's being reported? Thanks

feralunderclass · 11/11/2023 16:45

Breaking News: Israel have bombed the occupied city of Hebron in West Bank.