The cenotaph and poppy sellers

You’re avoiding saying where you are I assume because no country is immune to similar clashes to the U.K.

Reports of violence, aggression, deaths even, antisemitism and so on are all evident elsewhere

If you are living o/s but have a particular interest in the U.K. you’ll likely see the same issues in your own country and many others

The protesters would be marching this Saturday regardless of whether or not it was Armistice day, hiya like they have every other Saturday.

They didn’t choose that day for any other reason than it’s a Saturday when most of us aren’t at work.

The media and government are just using it as an excuse to create division and give people a reason to dismiss the aim of the march because they care about money more than people.

How do you mean 'see similar to here'? See politicians demonising protests? See the media demonising protests? No, that isn't happening where I live. Politicians are also all calling for a ceasefire. The protests and overwhelming support for Palestinians are seen as a point of pride. It's pretty much the default view that Israel should stop killing. Forums in my country reflect that, there is no oh but Hamas, just an overwhelming this is horrendous and needs to stop now.

Anyway, this isn't about me. This is about protests in the UK and like I said I think it is crazy that supporting an end to mass killings is seen as controversial and debated by your politicians and across your media channels no matter what day of the year these protests fall on.

Yes but you’re saying you live somewhere different to U.K. and France

I’m thinking of various countries and all will see similar to here

Where are you that you don’t have that?

It's not about 'tensions' the protest aren't about 'tensions' they are about calling for a ceasefire to stop the mass killing and attempted genocide in Gaza. Why would anyone be against that? That's what I find crazy about it all as I said.

Just stop. You are deliberately posting an inflammatory and false statement about people marching for a ceasefire.

you can disagree with their political position but they have the right to their views and smearing what are likely to be hundreds of thousands of people as terrorist sympathizers just to suit your own narrative is shameful.

Ok but which country is it?

Many countries suffer from tensions, can you say where you are that doesn’t?

I know. I literally said that in my last post. The anti Muslim sentiment in France is well known and has been for a long time.

For example:
If you are a French Muslim applying for a job, you are five times more likely to face discrimination than a non-Muslim.

And if you are a Muslim woman donning a headscarf, you have a 1% chance of finding employment.

Yes, just look at how racist France, the UK and the other multicultural countries are.

Well we all know where France stands on racism and anti Muslim feeling so if you want to look to them as somewhere sane crack on but I wouldn't be looking to France to be my moral compass on this.

I live somewhere that doesn't support the killing of 1000s of innocent people and it isn't seen as a controversial thing to say that a ceasefire should have happened weeks ago, it's just seen as common sense.

PS: I don't think these marches are in any way a hijack. It is the jingoist hijack that I deplore

This is what the RBL has to say about Remembrance

"We unite across faiths, cultures and backgrounds to remember the service and sacrifice of the Armed Forces community from United Kingdom and the Commonwealth. We will remember them.

• We remember the sacrifice of the Armed Forces community from United Kingdom and the Commonwealth.
• We pay tribute to the special contribution of families and of the emergency services.
• We acknowledge innocent civilians who have lost their lives in conflict and acts of terrorism"

I think those who hijack it are very wrong.

I don’t engage in the terminally dim that can’t fathom why people march against war crimes without thinking it’s nefarious brainwashing. Sorry.

So you don't have a point, that's relevant to my post. Thought not.

As they should, since this is a literal war crime going on.

Well over 10,000 people killed in barely a month. That’s actually extermination camps level of death (Auschwitz managed 20k monthly).

Where I live in Scotland everyone supports Palestine - I’m of the view faults on both sides but people hate the killing in Gaza and support marches against it.

Jesus Christ…

Who are the 100,000 marchers if not Londoners???????

There are marches other cities.
people are appalled at Gaza.

What's your point?

If it was banned they might turn up somewhere (using phones) and march with no police presence - you can hardly arrest thousands.

Are you the representative of "the vast majority of Londoners"@AdrianaLaCerva ?
I think most people in the UK support the right of freedom of expression. These marches have been taking place every Saturday since Israel began it's ruthless bombing campaign, and there's no reason why this Saturday should be any different.

The naïve gullible people who find this kind of thing horrific.

Britain isn’t ‘wild’ on this. France has banned marches, we haven’t done that

If you are in another country, which one?

Britain is wild. I can't believe marching for a ceasefire and the end of bloodshed is seen as controversial. I saw a video of one if the protests in London and the comments were horrifically racist. Lots of 'we should send them back to their own countries' type nonsense and that's the mild stuff. If people want to say that anyone protesting is supporting antisemitism because a few people may be arseholes, then it follows that anyone that is against the protests are supporting racism because they are aligning themselves with racist arseholes. Protesting against your government supporting the massacre of 1000s of people should never be controversial it should be seen as a moral duty.

The cenotaph and poppies denote peace, something which is the antithesis of the protestors' desire. Yes, you've got some naive, gullible people in there but in the main, peace isn't about destruction. So to vandalise UK monuments, which also took place during BLM protests, is to call for the opposite of peace but rather for desecration and an assertion of arrogance and superiority.