The cenotaph and poppy sellers

strange silence in this thread after what has happened today in Londons cenotaph I get it it wasn’t pro Palestinian people causing the chaos

https://twitter.com/JoshGafson1/status/1723301173388562891/

I don't understand phrases like Britain remembering its own dead? Some British people are in mixed marriages or have Middle Eastern heritage? Similarly, UK and Jewish people. Most of my Jewish friends are British?

Also, Britain sells the weapons that kill. Our business interests and taxes are responsible for those dead babies. They are our killed, if not our dead.

London has multiple things going on all the time. This weekend will be Uber busy but it’s often like that. I got caught up in two protests unwittingly last Saturday. One I have no idea what it was but they had police stewards and the other one was women near Tate Britain with body suits and pumps on their breast with fake blood pouring down and shouting. They were protesting the milk trade I found out.
once during lockdown I was walking around and got caught up in 5 separate protests. Londoners just put up with it and avoid certain areas at certain times. Speakers corner can be loud and fractious at times too but it’s a tiny bit of Hyde park.
it’s a beautiful sunny day here so far and if you want to go to london you should. You’ll likely not see any protests if you visit vast majority of areas.

oh Yeah suuure 🙄

But of course! 🙄

I don’t get people -all those poor poor soldiers who died years ago in the war - hundreds/thousands of innocent people being bombed/maimed -ah well,bad things happen

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67369061

It's their first post. They literally signed up to Mumsnet to say this...

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I predict - yet another thing that did not happen.

I have just got back from visiting a friend in St Thomas' hospital who was stabbed earlier today for wearing a poppy by someone wearing a hoodie, mask and a Palestinian pin badge, so not all stories are made up. He is 87 years old and no threat to anyone.

Just wish the march could take place on one of the other 364 days that's all.

I will be going to the march this Saturday, as I have done for the past 3 Saturdays. I don't march for fun, I do it because I cannot watch the murder of 10, 000 people (nearly half of them children) and the forced displacement of 1.1 MILLION people and do nothing.

I have no disrespect for those who want to observe Remembrance weekend, and I think that London is big enough to accommodate both events.

Just wish the march could take place on one of the other 364 days that's all.

Well, they're happening every Saturday, so there are (unfortunately) plenty of other opportunities

I didn't mention Braverman so I'm not sure what opinions of her on question time have to do with anything.

People, myself included, can be of the opinion that it's disrespectful to hold a march on Remembrance weekend AND be pro peace, respect the rights of others to march etc. Doesn't mean we are right wing Braverman supporters, you are conflating two differing viewpoints.
Just wish the march could take place on one of the other 364 days that's all.

Multiple American, European and ME cities, as well as parts of Asia, have had up to six figure marches each weekend now. It’s really quite clear now that there is a popular revolt against the narrative of it being a load of troublemakers who hate Jews and want to kick up a fuss.

Anyway, this isn't about me. This is about protests in the UK and like I said I think it is crazy that supporting an end to mass killings is seen as controversial and debated by your politicians and across your media channels no matter what day of the year these protests fall on.

It’s debated because for a ceasefire to work both sides must agree to terms that make that possible. At the moment a humanitarian pause is the best that can be negotiated.

However, whether or not I think they are realistic, I do believe that many people share your opinion and that is why they are demonstrating.

Have those people who are so against them actually been on a march? It would be interesting to see those who have and are still protesting that they are 'hate marches' or disrespectful. I live in the NW. The marches here have had significant numbers. Of all faiths. The one last weekend had a large number of Jewish supporters. People have joined from neighbouring cities. There has been very little, if any, trouble.

The are news reports showing 100s and 1000s of people in countries all over the world protesting. It isn't a London centric thing.

Apparently the Orange Order have asked for clarification. I’m looking forward to her explanation.

I wonder if she has discussed this with the DUP? Taking her comments at face value it’s difficult to understand why these marches wouldn’t fall into the category of marches that should be banned…

There is a long history of protests in this country on many issues, and usually there are arrests made for individuals who cause disruption. Many arrests have been made at climate change protests, for example.
But that does not mean those protests should not be allowed.

Cruella just wants to stifle free speech on this issue because she is a right-wing Zionist.

Just a further note about traffic disruption in London this Saturday

As well as this march, there's also the Lord Mayor's Show, which means road closures on the route (City of London) as well.

There are also planned closures for part of the day on the Tube until 3pm. Lines affected: Circle, District, Jubilee, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan. Replacement bus services will be running, but getting through the Parade and the march could take a while!

Some closures on the Overground too.

Haha, wow.

Anyone remember, ooh, about a week ago, when the Biden admin and Israel were collectively saying that the death toll was massively overinflated and you can’t trust the Hamas authority on these things?

They really are fucking this up a lot now. It’s so brazen, they even stopped trying to “debunk” the hospital bombing two weeks back and have just resorted to bombing more of them and assuming no one cares.

Laughing pretty hard at our idiot Home Secretary saying the pro-Palestinian marches are like the pro-terrorism marches in Northern Ireland.

You know, the ones held by the Orange Order and other loyalist and unionist groups that are big supporter of the Tories.

Whoopsy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67349474

Mark Rowley disagrees. The previous demonstrations and police intelligence shows that the marches do not meet the threshold of 'serious risk of disturbance'.

If the 'protests' had been without incident, there would be no need to highlight their going ahead on Armistice day. You can blame the thugs for that.