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I have a question about Palestinian children.

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Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 08/11/2023 18:39

What I've been wondering if an innocent child has just had their whole family killed by a bomb, there whole city bombed so they have nothing, how r they going to not being against who is bombing them. There is going to be trauma. They could be against what hamas belives, but they equally could be angry and understandably just in being anti Israel (goverment as that's who is carrying out this) how is it realistic to expect the Palestinians to be happy Israel is taking out hamas. And killing their families, their friends and flattening their cities in the process.

I copied this from another thread as think it's a valid question I have no idea why it's highlighted.

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TwilightSkies · 08/11/2023 19:15

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Thesunsstillupthere · 08/11/2023 19:09

Yep. This is why the whole idea of ‘bombing Hamas’ is a nonsense. For every Hamas member they manage to bomb, a hundred little boys are injured or lose a parent and grow up wanting revenge. If you were a Gazan child right now, what would you want to be when you grow up?

What Israel is doing in Gaza makes no sense unless their plan is to kill everyone there. I hope that is not the plan.

Hullobaby · 08/11/2023 19:08

Yes it all feels so hopeless as surely just perpetuating hate or at least ill feeling on both sides. How many generations will this take to solve? If ever?

I am also curious about the comment above re Hamas in civilian areas as thanks to Israeli occupation the whole of Gaza is civilian areas as it's so utterly overcrowded that people are living everywhere. I absolutely abhor Hamas and everything they stand for but suggesting there is space for them to go and build their big terror HQ elsewhere is misunderstanding the geography of Gaza.

I really hope amongst the devastation emerges the new political leaders of the future who want to see an end to Hamas and a bright future for Palestine.

FOJN · 08/11/2023 19:08

WarmWinterSun · 08/11/2023 18:51

Equally, why would they support Hamas for its evil and idiotic attack on Israel, it’s mandate to wipe out all Jews, it’s decision to base its military operations in civilian areas, it’s lack of any plan that would help its population and it’s refusal to return those it has kidnapped which would immediately result in a ceasefire? These issues are complicated and there is scope for anger to be levied in multiple directions. It is utterly tragic for the children whose lives are caught up in this and who will just reap more suffering now.

You don't seriously expect a 5 year old to either understand or process the politics of this do you? All they will know is that they have lost their family and they are terrified.

I think you think you sound compassionate but you don't, you sound utterly callous.

I would no more expect a Palestinian child to rationally analyse the causes of the violence than I would an Israeli child who survived Oct 7th.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 08/11/2023 18:57

WarmWinterSun · 08/11/2023 18:53

There is enough wrongdoing for the children in this terrible mess to be indoctrinated with hate in multiple directions. I wish we could help them to have a different future

I'm just trying to empathise with them. I don't think I could be not angry at what's happened to me and life and I genuinely don't belive any indoctrination needs to happen. Surely that's just a natural response.

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EasterIssland · 08/11/2023 18:57

There was a news few days ago about children in Palestina how most of them suffer from ptsd

Around 90% of children visiting paediatric hospitals complain of anxiety. Many are suffering from anxiety, and it’s certainly something we haven’t seen in the past. The recognition is beginning to dawn that this issue will be much more prolonged than before,” Grossman said.
In Gaza, a child aged 15 has experienced five periods of intense bombardment in their life: 2008-9, 2012, 2014, 2021 and now 2023.
Studies conducted after earlier conflicts have shown a majority of children in Gaza exhibiting symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
After Operation Pillar of Defence in 2012, Unicef, the UN children’s agency, found that 82% of children were either continuously or usually in fear of imminent death.
Among Unicef’s other findings were: 91% of children reported sleeping disturbances during the conflict; 94% said they slept with their parents; 85% reported appetite changes; 82% felt angry; 97% felt insecure; 38% felt guilty; 47% were biting their nails; 76% reported itching or feeling ill.
After Operation Cast Lead, the three-week war in 2008-09, a study by the Gaza community mental health programme (GCMHP) found that 75% of children over the age of six were suffering from one or more symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, with almost one in 10 ticking off every criterion.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/22/children-in-gaza-developing-severe-trauma-after-16-days-of-bombing

Children in Gaza ‘developing severe trauma’ after 16 days of bombing | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian

As well as risk of death and injury, psychiatrist says situation is leading to symptoms such as convulsions and bed-wetting

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/22/children-in-gaza-developing-severe-trauma-after-16-days-of-bombing

WarmWinterSun · 08/11/2023 18:53

There is enough wrongdoing for the children in this terrible mess to be indoctrinated with hate in multiple directions. I wish we could help them to have a different future

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 08/11/2023 18:52

nocoolnamesleft · 08/11/2023 18:48

Yes of course, this is a massive recruiting tool for Hamas. Why else did Hamas commit the atrocity that it did? This is exactly what they wanted. Played out on the world stage. Israel has fallen into their trap.

But this is separate from Hamas, They do not need to be associated with hamas. They could not want to be part of Hamas. should they just be grateful that Israel is trying to get rid of Hamas?

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WarmWinterSun · 08/11/2023 18:51

Equally, why would they support Hamas for its evil and idiotic attack on Israel, it’s mandate to wipe out all Jews, it’s decision to base its military operations in civilian areas, it’s lack of any plan that would help its population and it’s refusal to return those it has kidnapped which would immediately result in a ceasefire? These issues are complicated and there is scope for anger to be levied in multiple directions. It is utterly tragic for the children whose lives are caught up in this and who will just reap more suffering now.

nocoolnamesleft · 08/11/2023 18:48

Yes of course, this is a massive recruiting tool for Hamas. Why else did Hamas commit the atrocity that it did? This is exactly what they wanted. Played out on the world stage. Israel has fallen into their trap.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 08/11/2023 18:45

I copied it but I asked it

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