Number of Palestinians killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza over 10,000 😡

We have data about how many bombs have been dropped, where they have been dropped, how many people live in Gaza, and how small Gaza is. We also have footage that shows how built-up the area is and the level of destruction caused.

It seems you have a good insight in war tactics from the posts you have put out, many which were very educational.
In your own opinion from your understanding of the bombs that have been dropped aswell as the size of Gaza and its population do you personally think that 10 thousand casualties would be a far fetched figure over the thirty day period?

Or you know Israel could stop dropping bombs. It really isn't usual that if someone uses someone as a 'human shield' you say fuck it and kill them all. If a terrorist attack happened in the UK and the terrorist ran into a hospital or a shopping centre I hope you would be just as happy for Sunak to order the whole hospital be blown up. I mean they are just human shields right, not actual people with lives and families and hopes and dreams.

The attachment shows what Hamas' structure looks like. In the bottom right, you will find "Ministeries" - this includes the Health Ministry.

So you have evidence that all the dead Palestinians were actually members of Hamas?

Wouldnt take a genius to work out that the casualties would be in the many thousands
even if there were no figures available

It's absolutely terrible. Hamas need to stop using their civilians as shields.

14m ago
17.39 GMT

UN chief says Gaza is becoming a 'graveyard for children'

So speaks someone with credibility

I think also a lot of people don't realise that airstrikes on Israeli civilians never stopped & the Iron Dome is not infallible, it has been overwhelmed several times

The callousness on this thread is a sight to behold. People can't even bring themselves to express any kind of sympathy for the 1000s dead but nor can they bring themselves to just be quiet. Some of the posters are nearly revelling in it. Really poor form.

@juju99 I'm not going to guess that's the point. We have no reliable data.

From AP about the Health Ministry :

"Hamas, as Gaza’s ruling authority, exerts control over the Health Ministry. But it’s different than political and security agencies that Hamas runs.
The Palestinian Authority, which controlled Gaza before Hamas overran the area in 2007, retains power over health and education services in Gaza, though it’s based in the occupied West Bank. The ministry is a mix of recent Hamas hires and older civil servants affiliated with the secular nationalist Fatah party, officials say.
The Fatah-dominated authority that administers Palestinian cities in the Israeli-occupied West Bank has its own health ministry in Ramallah, which still provides medical equipment to Gaza, pays Health Ministry salaries and handles patient transfers from the blockaded enclave to Israeli hospitals.
Health Minister Mai al-Kaila in Ramallah oversees the parallel ministries, which receive the same data from hospitals. Her deputy is based in Gaza.
The Ramallah ministry said it trusts casualty figures from partners in Gaza, and it takes longer to publish figures because it tries to confirm numbers with its own Gaza staff.
Hamas tightly controls access to information and runs the government media office that offers details on Israeli airstrikes. But employees of the Health Ministry insist Hamas doesn’t dictate casualty figures.
“Hamas is one of the factions. Some of us are aligned with Fatah, some are independent,” said Ahmed al-Kahlot, director of Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza. “More than anything, we are medical professionals.”"

How many people do you think have died, then? What figure do you think might be closer to reality, bearing in mind the sheer number of strikes over a four-week period, in a densely-packed are?

This is exactly what they hoped to achieve. Civilians caught in the cross-fire to appeal to well-meaning people abroad. They have no regard for human life, Palestinian or Israeli.

Exactly this. Sorry for your loss 💐

Surely Hamas must've realised Israel would respond with force when they attacked? What did they hope to achieve?

Hamas also count fighters as civilians and adults as children, which is something else to bear in mind. You can't believe a word they are saying.

I am sorry to hear that, and I offer you my deepest condolences.

Israel has killed people I loved and cared about deeply, and Israel has imprisoned and tortured others. The only times in my life I genuinely thought I was going to die, Israel was to blame!

But I cried on 7 October, and again when it transpired that Shani Louk was dead!

Being sad, traumatised and shocked is understandable and okay. But we must not let it lead us towards dehumanising others - because if we do, we become the monsters we despise!

I don't think it's that much of a stretch to believe that 300+ people have been killed as a daily average, terrorist gov or not.

And the truth matters

I get why people are sceptical but to be honest, I don't think Hamas need to exaggerate the deaths.

Look at the destruction caused, look at the hundreds if not thousands of videos of people being killed. Then there are people missing under rubble.

The first victim of war is the truth.

Can you imagine how much Hamas and Hezbollah would be deterred if Israel started using its own citizens as human shields? (Answer: not at all. It would probably make them doubly murderous.) This is all on Hamas. A Hamas ceasefire would end the war, an Israeli ceasefire would end Israelis.

Again not true that only one side is cared about
I'm sorry for your loss
We all grieve differently but when we lose empathy for the innocent then we lose our humanity

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, you don't have to be nice to them. You don't have to uncritically accept their propaganda.

And I know someone who has been lost in the war, but not on the side that MN cares about.