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Free the Hostages

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petuniasandpetals · 05/11/2023 08:58

Ceasefire will happen if the hostages are freed. So why not shout and protest this instead?

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RebekaTuwin · 07/11/2023 16:37

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2023 10:17

Why is Netanyahu shelling the very places where he knows the hostages are being held?

I am similarly concerned about this as are many of the families of the hostages. I think there have been reports that Israel’s bombing by air, sea, artillery and tanks has already killed hostages- how could it not? The hostages are the human shields as they are with Hamas. I keep thinking if Israel really cared, it would do a cease fire and get the hostages out.

The four hostages that have been released have reported that they were for the most part humanely treated.

MissyB1 · 07/11/2023 16:35

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2023 10:17

Why is Netanyahu shelling the very places where he knows the hostages are being held?

Because he doesn’t give a shiny shit about them that’s why 😡

RebekaTuwin · 07/11/2023 16:27

Brrrrrrrrrrrr · 05/11/2023 09:54

I do a double take when I see those who are supporting and protesting in favour of the terrorists, anyone LGBT or female should really stop and take a moment to understand the complexities of the life they would have under the brutal rule of Hamas. There’s a lot of deception and propaganda out there but one thing is for sure, you would not want them as a neighbouring population.

As a woman? But I am seeing female UNWRA workers that are teachers, directors and software engineers that are Gazan? Girls are educated to the same level as boys with no profession barred to them. There are female doctors and surgeons in the hospitals in Gaza that are Gazan (not Drs without Borders workers from abroad)? I am seeing female Gazan journalists reporting? I am reading about Gazan women who own farms being concerned about their crops and live stock?

Hamas isn’t ISIS, the only ways there are similar are Muslim and terrorist. The way women live under their rule is very different between the two. Al Queda in Afghanistan is more similar to ISIS than Hamas in terms of status of women.

Creatingusernamesismygame · 07/11/2023 16:20

petuniasandpetals · 07/11/2023 16:11

Israel has not got hostages. It may have detainees but it doesn't have hostages.

I don't know Netanyahu and I know he is a right winger who has fundamentalists in his coalition but I really don't think he wants the hostages dead. That is a terrible thing to say.

I think they are shelling the areas so they can get to the tunnels.

Israel has kidnapped many children and young men over the years. Yes, many are imprisoned indefinitely too without any charge

SharonEllis · 07/11/2023 16:14

petuniasandpetals · 07/11/2023 16:11

Israel has not got hostages. It may have detainees but it doesn't have hostages.

I don't know Netanyahu and I know he is a right winger who has fundamentalists in his coalition but I really don't think he wants the hostages dead. That is a terrible thing to say.

I think they are shelling the areas so they can get to the tunnels.

Exactly right.

petuniasandpetals · 07/11/2023 16:11

Israel has not got hostages. It may have detainees but it doesn't have hostages.

I don't know Netanyahu and I know he is a right winger who has fundamentalists in his coalition but I really don't think he wants the hostages dead. That is a terrible thing to say.

I think they are shelling the areas so they can get to the tunnels.

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Repurpose · 07/11/2023 11:10

petuniasandpetals · 05/11/2023 10:25

So surely "FREE THE HOSTAGES" should be the chants?

I agree it would be good if we could demand the release of all hostages held by Hamas and Israel.

LittleGreenDragons · 07/11/2023 10:44

quiteoldad · 05/11/2023 22:59

LittleGreenDragons · said

"Netanyahu has said there will be a ceasefire if the hostages are released."

This is untrue. What he did say was

"There will be no ceasefire without the return of the hostages."

I was copying what the OP had said twice, but your post actually makes it more chilling.

Explains why he is bombing indiscriminately as he doesn't want them to have the ability to return all the hostages. He wants them dead too so he can raze the whole country.

Yorkshirelass04 · 07/11/2023 10:20

Everyone wants the hostages freed.

Nobody thinks Hamas are a bunch of angels.

And despite that; people are getting angry at Israel's approach.

Why could that be?

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2023 10:17

Why is Netanyahu shelling the very places where he knows the hostages are being held?

Alveus · 07/11/2023 10:16

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It takes a spectacular lack of empathy to come on a thread about Jewish hostages and tell people to feel ashamed for feeling worried about anti-Semetic signs.

PurpleChrayne · 07/11/2023 10:11

*If I live to be a hundred, I will never forget the people on here who watched Palestinians die in their tens of thousands, and tut tutted about how their slogans made people feel unsafe. I hope it haunts you til your dying day, what you have done, what you have not.

Shame on you.*

Aside from this being over-emotional nonsense, it's embarrassingly naive. I feel no shame at opposing terrorism. If there is a ceasefire now, Hamas will continue to pursue the tenet of its founding charter - to wipe Israel and Jewish people off the map. And then move on to the rest of the Western world.

I would never say anything as pointless and daft as "Shame on you", but if I did, I would direct it at those who are actively supporting a terror organisation. It's mind-boggling, it really is.

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MorrisZapp · 06/11/2023 13:27

There was a vigil outside the Scottish Parliament yesterday.

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The Warsaw ghetto uprising didn't happen because some Polish Jews attacked Germany and raped, tortured and murdered Germans, but you know that.

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Green777 · 06/11/2023 12:44

Laughing at the people trying still to frame pro Palestine supporters as pro Hamas.

Claiming people that protest the Genocide are supporting Hamas.

Suits their twisted narrative and belief that Gaza deserves this utter total distraction and Genocide bc there’s terrorists among them.

LittleMsTellTheTruth · 06/11/2023 12:41

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HoldOnMiGenna · 06/11/2023 11:56

Admitting that it was Hamas who broke the previous ceasefire by DELIBERATELY targeting Israeli citizens, adhering to their official aim of genociding all Israelis and Jews would go against the narrative.

Admitting that Hamas and too many so called "pro Palestinians" hate Israel, Israelis and Jews far more than they love Palestinians would also go against the narrative.
To admit that Israel have just cause, in light of the main aim of Hamas and the fact that Hamas do not care that residential Palestinians will suffer far higher collateral death tolls than Israel in this conflict due to Hamas using Palestinians as sitting ducks and NOT due to some notion that Israel is deliberately targetting Palestinians to die, would also go against the narrative.
To admit that called Palestinian supporters do not care about death tolls when the toll is below a certain high and deliberately targeted number and only pretend to care about a reported by Hamas far higher death toll , but do.not demand that Hamas give back the hostages that they kidnapped when they broke the previous ceasefire so wickedly....at least to.see if Israel will cool her justifiably very hot heels in seeking out ALL root and branch of Hamas presence on Gaza......would go against the narrative. They would rather more Gazans die to prove their point that Israel are the imperialist shit stirrers.

And to not question why Gaza has an abnormally high youth population and so much of a population and not question Hamas rules that women are no more than broodmares to provide human shields for Hamas in its quest to destroy Israel and Jewish people, this the current death toll will never matter to Hamas as long as Gazan women with viable wombs survive to provide more human shields and people to brainwash to hate Israel more than they love themselves. The recognition of this intra murderous misogyny , child and life hatred also goes against the narrative.

The fact that so called pro Palestinian supporters want to control how far back into history people should look , lest any justification for a Jewish state outside of the Holocaust is found by the genuinely neutral, but do not admit to pogroms and Arab, Middle Eastern, Western European , Eastern European , Indo European states expelling Jews or at best making life untenable is ignored. As is the fact that theocratic and Muslim majority nations in the Middle East and North Africa are very intolerant of difference to the point and more of what they accuse Israel.of being.
This is inconvenient to the narrative.

Jews shouldn't have a homeland, but Islamic imperialism in all continents outside of the Americas and Antarctica is to be brushed aside is inconvenient to the narrative of " Jewish ethno European colonial imperialism " of so called Pro Palestinian supporters whose sense of history only goes back to the 1940s, but in a very convenient glitch, managed to ride over the murderous breaking of the ceasefire by Hamas on October 7th that has caused this conflict and deaths of Israelis and Palestinians.
That's inconvenient to the narrative, too.

I have always said that Palestinians have the worst allies for the large amount of them that exist. On better examination , Palestinians have been GENERATIONALLY cursed by having allies who use their cause as a conduit to express anti Semitism so repressed and denied that so many of the so called pro Palestine supporters are in denial. Also there are those of all races , creeds and classes who are edgelords who love the benefits of The West , no.matter the way those benefits were wrought, but they have a hole within , so deep it cannot be filled by normal means as these types are oppositional, too.
Israel and 'anti Zionism" provides them a " legitimate" means of mask slipping. They lose nothing, can hide behind hyper emotionalism, can hide behind the massive amount of that character type who exist in the Western do called Pro Palestinian support, no deep thought or circumspection is demanded and the more one acts like a toddler denied a sweetie , the better one is received amongst their cohort. Boundaries and propiety are often optional.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.

HoldOnMiGenna · 06/11/2023 11:56

Admitting that it was Hamas who broke the previous ceasefire by DELIBERATELY targeting Israeli citizens, adhering to their official aim of genociding all Israelis and Jews would go against the narrative.

Admitting that Hamas and too many so called "pro Palestinians" hate Israel, Israelis and Jews far more than they love Palestinians would also go against the narrative.
To admit that Israel have just cause, in light of the main aim of Hamas and the fact that Hamas do not care that residential Palestinians will suffer far higher collateral death tolls than Israel in this conflict due to Hamas using Palestinians as sitting ducks and NOT due to some notion that Israel is deliberately targetting Palestinians to die, would also go against the narrative.
To admit that called Palestinian supporters do not care about death tolls when the toll is below a certain high and deliberately targeted number and only pretend to care about a reported by Hamas far higher death toll , but do.not demand that Hamas give back the hostages that they kidnapped when they broke the previous ceasefire so wickedly....at least to.see if Israel will cool her justifiably very hot heels in seeking out ALL root and branch of Hamas presence on Gaza......would go against the narrative. They would rather more Gazans die to prove their point that Israel are the imperialist shit stirrers.

And to not question why Gaza has an abnormally high youth population and so much of a population and not question Hamas rules that women are no more than broodmares to provide human shields for Hamas in its quest to destroy Israel and Jewish people, this the current death toll will never matter to Hamas as long as Gazan women with viable wombs survive to provide more human shields and people to brainwash to hate Israel more than they love themselves. The recognition of this intra murderous misogyny , child and life hatred also goes against the narrative.

The fact that so called pro Palestinian supporters want to control how far back into history people should look , lest any justification for a Jewish state outside of the Holocaust is found by the genuinely neutral, but do not admit to pogroms and Arab, Middle Eastern, Western European , Eastern European , Indo European states expelling Jews or at best making life untenable is ignored. As is the fact that theocratic and Muslim majority nations in the Middle East and North Africa are very intolerant of difference to the point and more of what they accuse Israel.of being.
This is inconvenient to the narrative.

Jews shouldn't have a homeland, but Islamic imperialism in all continents outside of the Americas and Antarctica is to be brushed aside is inconvenient to the narrative of " Jewish ethno European colonial imperialism " of so called Pro Palestinian supporters whose sense of history only goes back to the 1940s, but in a very convenient glitch, managed to ride over the murderous breaking of the ceasefire by Hamas on October 7th that has caused this conflict and deaths of Israelis and Palestinians.
That's inconvenient to the narrative, too.

I have always said that Palestinians have the worst allies for the large amount of them that exist. On better examination , Palestinians have been GENERATIONALLY cursed by having allies who use their cause as a conduit to express anti Semitism so repressed and denied that so many of the so called pro Palestine supporters are in denial. Also there are those of all races , creeds and classes who are edgelords who love the benefits of The West , no.matter the way those benefits were wrought, but they have a hole within , so deep it cannot be filled by normal means as these types are oppositional, too.
Israel and 'anti Zionism" provides them a " legitimate" means of mask slipping. They lose nothing, can hide behind hyper emotionalism, can hide behind the massive amount of that character type who exist in the Western do called Pro Palestinian support, no deep thought or circumspection is demanded and the more one acts like a toddler denied a sweetie , the better one is received amongst their cohort. Boundaries and propiety are often optional.