Anti Semetism IS happening

I didn't mention hate. I think for many is a cold dehumanisation of Jewish people rather than active hate.

But yes, if you can have such disregard for those victims that your instant reaction is not a vigil for those victims, or a vigil for the Israeli victims and Palestinian people, but instead to march alongside those who support those attacks, alongside those who talked about ' context' and 'understanding' for the perpetrators of such attacks, without caring what message that marching sends to rawly traumatised Jewish and Israeli people, then yes, you have dehumanised the Israelis and Jewish people.

And actually, the more I have seen of the marches and marchers, the more partisan and polarising I see them as. For all those saying, 'but we just want peace and we care for both sides' . What would have happened to someone attending one of those marches with a 'Bring home the hostages banner?' And how many of those on the Palestinian marches will turn up for Saturday's march against anti-semitism? Do you think we will see the same demographic, same volumes, same people marching? Because if we do, I will concede you were right about the motives of the Palestinian marchers and offer my apologies. And if we don't, I hope you will have to good grace to concede that people like me who were sceptical about the motives of so many of the Palestinian marchers were right.

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So seeing the genocide of a people and marching against their murder and forced expulsion from a land means you're full of hate? Is having sympathy and wanting equal rights for Palestinians (now and for the past 75 years) equal to hating another? It doesn't make sense.
You can be rightfully angry about anti semitism and horrified about Oct 7th while also heartbroken at what's happening to Palestine. You don't have to be one or the other. It's not a football game.

"If you can look at the brutal and racist torture, rape and murder of children, women and men on October 7th and your reaction is to turn your face away from those victims so totally that you immediately, even when the Jewish community is reeling and traumatized, go on a march for another group of people, then you have so dehumanized the Jewish people that you think they are not deserving of caring or concern no matter what brutality befalls them. Then yes, you have, even if unconsciously, absorbed an anti-Semitic world"

The half wits going on the pro Palestine marches a few days after the appalling terrorist attacks on Israel were showing us exactly who they are.

I think everyone is (should be) horrified by the events of October 7 but it doesn’t lessen the horrors experienced by the Palestinians. An Israeli life isn’t worth more than a Palestinian and vice versa.

As far as I know it was not 'bestowed' by the UK, the iPlayer series on 50 years of war was very informative.

If you can look at the brutal and racist torture, rape and murder of children, women and men on October 7th and your reaction is to turn your face away from those victims so totally that you immediately, even when the Jewish community is reeling and traumatized, go on a march for another group of people, then you have so dehumanized the Jewish people that you think they are not deserving of caring or concern no matter what brutality befalls them. Then yes, you have, even if unconsciously, absorbed an anti-Semitic worldview

So basically what you’re saying is that no-one should care what happens to the Palestinians. And if you do? Antisemitic.

Indeed. Criticism of government is different.
It's when people like the above poster suggest that 'they' use the holocaust as a 'how to' guide. Poster shows little understanding of the holocaust and what occurred to suggest that.

@Pinkdressinggownbelt the Israeli ambassador to the UK makes my blood boil too, she is a self righteous hypocrite. One who believes there should be no palestine at all, only Israel.
But criticism for her and the government for their actions in this war is not anti-semitic

But it is important to distinguish between the government and its people.
Also all Jewish people are not one group with the same thoughts. I think when looking at the war with Israel and Palestine it is important not to conflate it as a war with Jewish people and Muslims

@LittleMsTellTheTruth

You suggested holocaust survivors used the holocaust as a 'how to' guide. Grossly offensive and anti semitic. The old man in the interview has done no such thing. To suggest Jewish people took what occurred in the holocaust and did the same is grossly offensive and inaccurate.

You are displaying the hatred of which he spoke and sees. He lives in the UK.

You need to watch the clip on BBC catch up or iplayer.

He was talking about the hatred TO Jewish people in general. He lived in the UK. The hatred towards Jewish people which has perpetuated since the holocaust.

You immediately go on about killing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians. Thus old man in the UK has killed no one! You are showing your anti semitism and seeing all Jewish people as one mass. Do you not realise that Jewish people are all individuals. You appear to be suffering from the brainwashing hatred that he was talking about. Hatred towards Jews. Wow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67514681

https://www.mynewsmag.co.uk/awful-abuse-six-identified-following-anti-semitic-hate-crime-in-northwood/

Every time I hear the Israeli ambassador lady on the radio I have to wrestle with my self against anti semitic feelings same with the Israeli pm It’s very hard to listen to their “fighting” talk against the backdrop of the horror going on in Gaza ,and not feel very negative emotions for them and anyone who supports them.we are not seeing dead bodies of Hamas terrorists, we are seeing dead children. And videos of Palestinian kids who want to kill Jews. Are the children Hamas? And if so, is the solution to bomb them all to death ? Before all this I largely didn’t give that region much thought, but this “war” is so unbalanced. I’m struggling not to be anti semitic now, I try to keep in mind the Jewish people I know and never had a problem with before . To me from the river to the sea doesn’t mean no Israel, it means Israel has to share that land it was bestowed by UK etc, with the previous owners in a gracious manner, not in an entitled Bible Says So kind of way . Have less land, squish up, whatever. Be thankful and not bullying It’s disgusting to watch people so sinned against relishing their chance to do same to others and try to gaslight the world. Despite what world leaders say, general populations round the world can see this is so so wrong Shame on Israel

The Palestinian lady suggested that the land is shared if Hamas are defeated (she didn't think it was likely they would be) in a democracy going forward.

I just watched an old man who lost his parents when the were slaughtered during the holocaust with over 5 million other Jewish people.

His name Kurt Marx , he said that he doesn't understand the hate. He said 'I don't think we have learned anything really (since the holocaust) it's the hatred that's instilled in young people in general. They are being brainwashed. This hatred is perpetuated.'

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Ugh, this makes me so sad and angry!
I hope she's OK!!
Was it another child? Were the parents there?

I am horrified by the actions of the israeli goverment - and deeply saddened that a little girl in my wider family has received anti semetic remarks in the playground, she's english/we are in england, it's so sad. Anti-Semetism/Islamaphobia/Any racism makes me extra angry when it's aimed at little kids :(

What leader?

Just tell me something OP. What do you think should be done about the illegal settlements, those ones which are against international law but allowed by your Leader and defended by armed settlers and actual soldiers?

Not convinced on that one

It's human nature

Religion is wrong - all religions. No one religion is any better than another. Am very happy being an atheist.

Completely agree about what you said about the religion.