Anti Semetism IS happening

@LemonAidG you said you weren't on other posts. Do people advertise that anyway?

Those pesky Jews/ gentiles with their loud voices. (Looking for fist shaking emoji)

May I suggest that if you join a thread eighteen pages in, people will assume you are engaging in the current debate not responding to the OP ( which I think was posted days ago)

I don’t know your race so not sure how I could use a racist trope against you. I did call out the anti-Semitic tropes in yours though.

@Humdingerydoo So you get to ask all the questions then eh? Accuse people of being anti semitic? How do i know you're not anti Islam?

@Humdingerydoo and on a post about antisemitism. Strange.

I disagree.

I also think Netanyahu is called out all the time....

I don't want to answer any of your questions until I know for sure you're not being anti-Semitic. Because it's sure as hell sounded like you were being so. The Jewish community have the loudest voices, eh? You think everyone on here who is supporting Israel is Jewish? And you think every Jew on here is supporting Israel?

Aren't you the poster who wanted a Muslim Mumsnetters board partly so you wouldn't have to encounter islamophobic comments anymore? Yet here you are, grouping all Jews together.

@hologramvirus Interesting how you jumped to conclusions and used racist stereotypes to taint my character, what's the reason for that? Twisting my words and changing the context to suit your narrative. Lol, I wasn't even responding to your posts. Says a lot about intent of some posters. Shame, the same concern isn't given to the Muslim children dying in Gaza.

@LemonAidG I actually think voice wise it's pretty fifty/fifty.
Sorry to disappoint you

You used that expression to explain why people have been more active for Palestinians than Israelis. It’s pretty racist to deprioritise a massacred group because they are part of an oppressing race even though they were clearly a defenseless group being brutalized.

@Humdingerydoo Don't cherry pick a post to twist things into anti semitism. The Jewish community have the loudest voices in this conflict on MN, these threads even the ones expressing sympathy for Palestinians have been derailed. What about the other points in my post, why ignore how Netanyahu's racist twisted rhetoric is never called out?

The terrorists did. They were very clear they were looking for Jews to kill. This was a racist massacre. The fact that those on the pro-Palestinian marches are NOT talking about race in this context, are NOT acknowledging it as a racist massacre, is exactly the problem I am talking about.

That omission IS racist

When I said Palestinian's are seen as the underdogs I meant that they have no statehood, are refugees, live in ghettos, settlements built on their land, governed by terrorists etc.
This is a separate from the issue of Hamas being racist towards Jewish people, which they obviously are.

@hologramvirus what are you talking about I did not tag you in a post. My post was for the OP not you.

I think that is just blatant anti-semitism. She thinks I’m a Jew who’s part of a powerful Jew cabal. Maybe I control the media or something.

My community? What community is that then? I’m not Jewish. Speaks volumes that you think I must be though. Do you think Jews just look out for themselves? Because that is an ancient anti-Semitic trope.

I have the loudest voice? Sorry, what is this? An anti-Semitic trope about Jews being a powerful and influential cabal?

The rest of your post wanting ‘context’ to justify Hamas utter barbarity but no ‘context’ for Israel has been well covered elsewhere.

What do you mean by "you have the loudest voices"?

The terrorists did. They were very clear they were looking for Jews to kill. This was a racist massacre. The fact that those on the pro-Palestinian marches are NOT talking about race in this context, are NOT acknowledging it as a racist massacre, is exactly the problem I am talking about.

That omission IS racist

What you are minimizing here is the dehumanization and demonization of Israeli Jews to such an extreme extent that a bloodthirsty racist massacre against them cannot be called out as such.

I think it can* *but people make the distinction between Hamas (who are to blame for all of this) and the ordinary people in Gaza.

Sorry to go on about it, but that statement above from you really nails what makes me so angry. It’s the tacit admission there of the deeply racist underpinning of the pro-Palestinian side which is so extreme, that even after the horror of October 7th they can’t bring themselves to admit Israelis as victims of a racist massacre.
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It’s just disgusting

Er..no
I never said anything about race.

@hologramvirus that's just so awful.

Sorry to go on about it, but that statement above from you really nails what makes me so angry. It’s the tacit admission there of the deeply racist underpinning of the pro-Palestinian side which is so extreme, that even after the horror of October 7th they can’t bring themselves to admit Israelis as victims of a racist massacre.

It’s just disgusting.

This is from an article by Robert Crampton in the Times today. He is talking about watching the video of unedited compilation of the attacks:

The two most common words spoken by Hamas that day seem to have been, when translated, “God” and “dog”. Two short words, one the reverse of the other, summing up their feelings and their motivation, and perhaps suggesting how so many people can lose their minds and their humanity to the extent of being able to do what they did. God — their God — is great. Jews are not people, but dogs

I don’t think I heard the word “Palestine” spoken once. I didn’t hear the word “Israeli” either. Beside God and dog, the next most frequent word was “Jew”. Sir Mick Davis, the businessman and former Tory party treasurer who helped to introduce the film, made the point that “what you are about to see had nothing to do with the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people and everything to do with the desire to murder Jews”. He was spot-on. “Hamas was proud of what it did and has said it would do it again,” he added. “The people who march for Palestine in London and elsewhere need to be very careful about what banner they march under.” He’s right about that too

But it’s prejudiced bias that causes this. It’s the appalling, and blatantly false, ideology that says Israelis can’t be victims as ‘the oppressor can’t be oppressed’.

Everyone who has not brainwashed themselves can see that the unarmed men, women, children and babies against a mob of heavily armed, violent, murderous,cruel thugs, were very much the under dogs.

What you are minimizing here is the dehumanization and demonization of Israeli Jews to such an extreme extent that a bloodthirsty racist massacre against them cannot be called out as such. Because the bloodthirsty racist murderers were the underdogs and the mother and baby tied together and burnt alive were the oppressors.

When you can evidence equivalent responses to Palestinian victims as have been shown by pro-Palestinians to Israeli victims, then you will be at the start of making a case with merit.

But there is no equivalence is there? There have not been large scale marches across the world for Israeli victims. Which is the case you are trying to make us not very honest

Palestinians are seen as the underdogs, that tends to get you more sympathy (rightly or wrongly)