Anti Semetism IS happening

I have encountered it, I used to think they were sad individuals not representative of a wider world view, now I would hope they were on watchlist.
There are some wicked manipulators targeting vulnerable people, we have to make connections to each other to feed our humanity and build cohesive communities.

TBF many other pro Palestinian marchers step in to defend him.

I am very much pro-Israel but yes, I have seen this on a number of different videos, not just this one, of things happening on the marches - other protesters stepping in.

@IClaudine thank you for sharing. I see a few things here. I see the person with the placard wanting a reaction as there is no other reason for doing what he did in the middle of a pro-Palestine protest. I also see a handful of people giving him a negative reaction and behaving in a shameful and aggressive manner whilst the majority of people ignore or restrain those causing trouble including reiterating that it's no place for violence.

You really should go to a march before you say these ridiculous things - the marchers are for peace and for Palestine i.e. against Israel's long-term apartheid policies for one. To confuse this with pro-Hamas is depressing indeed, if not wilful ignorance.

I for one can't stand to see every criticism of Israeli policy labelled antisemitism.

I don't think the marches are hate marches or anti-Semitic in the main, but there is definitely an element of that present. I have also seen some anti-Semitic posts on Facebook. Posts from people like me who are fairly left wing, not right wing nutters. It is really depressing.

TBF many other pro Palestinian marchers step in to defend him.

They presumably do not think they are on an anti semetic hate march.

Antisemitism has always been rife in the UK and I’m so sorry that it’s getting worse. For those saying they haven’t seen it I wonder where you live and who you mix with. It may be that comments are indeed being heard but just not recognised as antisemitism.

I heard a university lecturer making antisemitic comments back in the 90s, also people commenting on an antisemitic manner on Jewish co workers in more recent years. I of course called this out.

Yesterday an academic posted on LinkedIn that her Jewish neighbour went this weekend to buy smarties with his 5 year old daughter at a supermarket in the UK. A man next to them in the queue slammed down his shopping, shouted out that he wouldn’t shop next to murderers and stormed out. Not one member of staff approached the victims of this verbal abuse.

A good point that no one seems willing or able to answer

Sorry what? Who should have their visa taken away from them? 🤯 Are you of the view that anybody pro-Palestinian must be an immigrant?

Here it is:

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1720887237124985027

In terms of violent attacks statistically Muslims fare worse. Since 7/11 I think 6 Muslims have been stabbed to death which has been related to the conflict. It's interesting that any antisemitism discussion on here always brings out the Islamophobes.

@ScribblingPixie I think the other thing to note is that Hamas has already been publicly condemned as a terrorist organisation. Whereas the Israeli government who are committing crimes of a much greater scale are legitimised and supported. You don't expect to see placards around the U.K banning paedophillia, murder, rape or theft because those things are already illegal.

As usual, some people are keen to minimise and excuse anti-Semitism. It really is the oldest and most deeply ingrained hatred.

There’s such little mention of the hostages in all these discussions.
Does anyone know why people tear down their posters in protest? What the significance of that is meant to be?

I haven't seen the footage but if you have a link to it, I'm willing to watch. I can't speak for others beyond what I have heard and seen myself so will speak of my personal stance. Despite the fact that I condemn Hamas and some of the actions of Hamas, I would never go to a Pro-palestine protest and make a board about Hamas being terrorists as it feeds the media narrative of the reason Palestinians are going through this is BECAUSE of Hamas when that's untrue. Palestinians have been going through this for the last 75 years. The thing that has changed is the awareness surrounding the situation and how much of it we get to see.

@Lamelie Anyone excusing the attacks should rightly be called out and I do. There is simply no excuse to kill innocent people for political ideologies. I've only seen the recent attacks being discussed in the broader context of Israel's government policies, settler expansion and IDF treatment of Palestinian people/children in Gaza and the West Bank. I wouldn't say it is Anti Semetic to discuss these issues as a contributory factor in Hamas terrorism. Many Jewish Israelis also recognise that these are contributing factors to radicalisation and terrorism in the region. This discussion shouldn't be silenced or censored, even if it is uncomfortable to hear, as otherwise it buries the issues and the cycle of violence continues.

No. There’s understanding the context v excusing.

@Lamelie Surely all acts of terrorism need to be unpicked to understand why they happened.

You cannot even see what I’m responding to 🙄 but yes, the next time somebody pops up both a racist and islamophobic comment suggesting that anti-christian and antisemitic sentiment is going on equally when that’s obviously not the case, I’ll let that stand.

@Cropcycle I'm so sorry you feel unsafe. It should not be the case.

I think this is appalling. This is so scary. This is disgusting what they are doing.. I can't believe how our governments are are not standing together. I was sat watching a TV programme called gbn.. The guy on there is from new reform.. Unlike our idiots MPs.. Conservative and labour.. He said we need to man up and all these people should have their visa, ect taken off them and sent home.. I'm so sorry your going through all this.. I worry for our grand children..

There’s a narrative that blathers about the context of the 7 October attacks. It’s intellectually flabby and antisemitic in consequence rather than intent but still needs calling out.

I hear pro-Palestinians condemning Hamas all the time

Have you seen the video of the Iranian man carrying a placard saying 'Hamas are terrorists' at the march getting attacked? His criticism didn't seem to go down well.

I've never been to a single march/protest/vigil where it's all about Jewish people. In fact the only time Jewish people have even been mentioned is by actual Jewish people who are speaking. It's only the Jewish posters on here, who don't seem to have even attended any of said events, who insist this is all about Jewish people.

I'm not in London ora big city so have only seen the marches second hand but none of their banners etc.seem to be asking for the hostages to be returned or condemn Hamas, they just look like anti-Israel. But have heard lots of Jewish people here and elsewhere expressing concern for Gazan people.And again not in London but it looks like Jewish schools and organisations and even individuals are needing security and not Muslim ones. I am extremely ashamed of this need to protect Jewish people who have nothing to do with Israel as a British person.