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Illegal settlements

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immigrant002 · 04/11/2023 17:32

I just watched a piece on itv and sky news how Palestinians are abandoning their houses in the west bank as they face severe intimidation by settlers and army forces

The reporter says the settlements are illegal they are universally accepted as illegal so my question is why is nobody doing anything ??
What is the purpose of international law and the UN ? Is it just Israel that gets away with is ?

I just don't see what the point of saying something is illegal but continuing to build more and more settlements for people from
US kicking Palestinians out of their homes ? Why are they getting away with this ?

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youngones1 · 04/11/2023 21:18

immigrant002 · 04/11/2023 17:32

I just watched a piece on itv and sky news how Palestinians are abandoning their houses in the west bank as they face severe intimidation by settlers and army forces

The reporter says the settlements are illegal they are universally accepted as illegal so my question is why is nobody doing anything ??
What is the purpose of international law and the UN ? Is it just Israel that gets away with is ?

I just don't see what the point of saying something is illegal but continuing to build more and more settlements for people from
US kicking Palestinians out of their homes ? Why are they getting away with this ?

It's awful isn't it.

immigrant002 · 04/11/2023 21:17

iap · 04/11/2023 19:32

Why isn’t international law applying to Iran as it brutalises its population and beats girls to death for not wearing a head scarf.
Why doesn’t it apply to Syria bombing its own population, massacring hundreds of thousands of people?
Why doesn’t it apply to Pakistan forcibly deporting millions of Afghans to a brutal regime?
Or to Afghanistan itself for terrorising its women and denying them basic human rights?
Because ‘international law’ is as powerful as armies willing to enforce it. Which of these countries do you want Britain to send troops to try and change? All of them?

But according to the west Israel is our ally a democratic country the only democratic country in middle east apparently

I went down the rabbit hole watched so many documentaries on the settlements and the abuse that Palestinians (not hamas) face by these settlers
A video of a young woman saying to a settler why are you taking my home and him replying if i don't take it someone else will 😳

The racism is despicable they truly think is their god given right ?? That an ancient book tells them is their land ?

The double standards are insane imagine a muslim said the same thing they would immediately be labelled and rightfully so as an extremist . Why aren't these people not labelled as such ?

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ssd · 04/11/2023 21:17

It must be a terrifying, soul destroying way to live.

And there's posters on mn who support it all the way. I cant understand it.

bearofepic · 04/11/2023 21:03

@Lonelycrab the whole situation is so sad and depressing.

Lonelycrab · 04/11/2023 20:36

Do settlers that kill or injure Palestinians face any consequences for their actions whatsoever?

Not really, the IDF and govt are complicit, it’s been ramping up for years and now the violence is the worst ever

bearofepic · 04/11/2023 20:05

Do settlers that kill or injure Palestinians face any consequences for their actions whatsoever?

regularmumnotacoolmum · 04/11/2023 20:04

immigrant002 · 04/11/2023 17:32

I just watched a piece on itv and sky news how Palestinians are abandoning their houses in the west bank as they face severe intimidation by settlers and army forces

The reporter says the settlements are illegal they are universally accepted as illegal so my question is why is nobody doing anything ??
What is the purpose of international law and the UN ? Is it just Israel that gets away with is ?

I just don't see what the point of saying something is illegal but continuing to build more and more settlements for people from
US kicking Palestinians out of their homes ? Why are they getting away with this ?

This has been going on for decades. The people of Palestine have been trying to tell the world but we didn't listen. I wish this was something new but it's not. The only people who said they would listen was Hamas which is how they got elected. The only thing I can equate it to is how the brexit campaign sold a dream and gave lots of people hope for a 'better future' but the reality was that things aren't.

iap · 04/11/2023 20:01

the Geneva convention still applies and Syrian attacks, for example, have been categorised as war crimes.

FrippEnos · 04/11/2023 19:53

iap · 04/11/2023 19:32

Why isn’t international law applying to Iran as it brutalises its population and beats girls to death for not wearing a head scarf.
Why doesn’t it apply to Syria bombing its own population, massacring hundreds of thousands of people?
Why doesn’t it apply to Pakistan forcibly deporting millions of Afghans to a brutal regime?
Or to Afghanistan itself for terrorising its women and denying them basic human rights?
Because ‘international law’ is as powerful as armies willing to enforce it. Which of these countries do you want Britain to send troops to try and change? All of them?

Because the issues that you have put forward are internal?

iap · 04/11/2023 19:52

the questions by the OP were ‘what is the purpose of international law and the UN? Is it only Israel that gets away with it?m
I think my response answers that question.

(I do not support the settlers’ actions in the west bank.)

bratchlocks · 04/11/2023 19:45

iap · 04/11/2023 19:32

Why isn’t international law applying to Iran as it brutalises its population and beats girls to death for not wearing a head scarf.
Why doesn’t it apply to Syria bombing its own population, massacring hundreds of thousands of people?
Why doesn’t it apply to Pakistan forcibly deporting millions of Afghans to a brutal regime?
Or to Afghanistan itself for terrorising its women and denying them basic human rights?
Because ‘international law’ is as powerful as armies willing to enforce it. Which of these countries do you want Britain to send troops to try and change? All of them?

This thread is specifically about Palestinians and the West Bank. Why don't you start your own thread to discuss the places you mention?

flufferknutter · 04/11/2023 19:42

SisterMichaelsHabit · 04/11/2023 19:38

Whataboutery started early on this thread. 🙄

It's all there is left tbh. No rational arguments can now excuse what's happening. Childish whataboutery is the last refuge of the desperate.

ssd · 04/11/2023 19:41

Yes, its easier have a race to the bottom than addressing the settlers behaviour.

flufferknutter · 04/11/2023 19:40

iap · 04/11/2023 19:32

Why isn’t international law applying to Iran as it brutalises its population and beats girls to death for not wearing a head scarf.
Why doesn’t it apply to Syria bombing its own population, massacring hundreds of thousands of people?
Why doesn’t it apply to Pakistan forcibly deporting millions of Afghans to a brutal regime?
Or to Afghanistan itself for terrorising its women and denying them basic human rights?
Because ‘international law’ is as powerful as armies willing to enforce it. Which of these countries do you want Britain to send troops to try and change? All of them?

We helped create this monster and US have been feeding and nurturing it for decades.

SisterMichaelsHabit · 04/11/2023 19:38

iap · 04/11/2023 19:32

Why isn’t international law applying to Iran as it brutalises its population and beats girls to death for not wearing a head scarf.
Why doesn’t it apply to Syria bombing its own population, massacring hundreds of thousands of people?
Why doesn’t it apply to Pakistan forcibly deporting millions of Afghans to a brutal regime?
Or to Afghanistan itself for terrorising its women and denying them basic human rights?
Because ‘international law’ is as powerful as armies willing to enforce it. Which of these countries do you want Britain to send troops to try and change? All of them?

Whataboutery started early on this thread. 🙄

iap · 04/11/2023 19:32

Why isn’t international law applying to Iran as it brutalises its population and beats girls to death for not wearing a head scarf.
Why doesn’t it apply to Syria bombing its own population, massacring hundreds of thousands of people?
Why doesn’t it apply to Pakistan forcibly deporting millions of Afghans to a brutal regime?
Or to Afghanistan itself for terrorising its women and denying them basic human rights?
Because ‘international law’ is as powerful as armies willing to enforce it. Which of these countries do you want Britain to send troops to try and change? All of them?

TakeMe2Insanity · 04/11/2023 19:31

Because the Israeli government backs the Settlers both through rebates and their own political motivations. Essentially the whole of Israel has been created via settlements: through out the residents and settle in.

flufferknutter · 04/11/2023 19:20

It's becoming apparent that international laws are pointless and only apply to certain countries.

All animals are equal and all that......

Ohlalalalala · 04/11/2023 19:02

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/settler-violence-has-escalated-dramatica-idRW537903112023RP1

Settler violence has 'escalated dramatically' - U.N.
Posted November 3, 2023

Liz Throssell, spokesperson for the Office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) raised concerns about the escalation of violence in the West Bank where 132 Palestinians, including 41 children, have been killed, most by Israeli forces and eight by Israeli settlers.

Settler violence has 'escalated dramatically' - U.N. | Reuters Video

Liz Throssell, spokesperson for the Office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) raised concerns about the escalation of violence in the West Bank where 132 Palestinians, including 41 children, have been killed, most by Israeli forces...

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/settler-violence-has-escalated-dramatica-idRW537903112023RP1

immigrant002 · 04/11/2023 17:33

www.instagram.com/reel/CzOnL3oskjt/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Link of said news story

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