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sunshinesupermum · 02/11/2023 16:14

Hear Hamas Official in his own words and understand why Israel is doing what it has to:
We will Repeat The October 7 Attack, Time And Again, Until Israel Is Annihilated.
https://www.memri.org/reports/hamas-official-ghazi-hamad-we-will-repeat-october-7-attack-time-and-again-until-israel

Hamas Official Ghazi Hamad: We Will Repeat The October 7 Attack, Time And Again, Until Israel Is Annihilated; We Are Victims – Everything We Do Is Justified

Ghazi Hamad of the Hamas political bureau said in an October 24, 2023 show on LBC TV (Lebanon) that Hamas is prepared to repeat the October 7 "Al-Aqsa Flood" Operation time and again until Israel is annihilated.

https://www.memri.org/reports/hamas-official-ghazi-hamad-we-will-repeat-october-7-attack-time-and-again-until-israel

OP posts:
backtowinter · 02/11/2023 22:29

Yes there were quite a few posts on here justifying Hamas

I wonder if the vocal anti-Israel people on here were equally outraged about the people murdered in Yemen

If not, why not.

Torwenn · 02/11/2023 22:28

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Rubbishagain · 02/11/2023 21:49

Flopsythebunny · 02/11/2023 17:58

According to Hamas

No according to the carpet bombing using illegal white phosphorus by IDF. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzJT-K3ogGa/?igshid=Y2NkYjk0MDhjYg==
how are they s to survive this?

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzJT-K3ogGa/?igshid=Y2NkYjk0MDhjYg==

Stomacharmeleon · 02/11/2023 20:19

Sorry 'proscribed' the joy of autocorrect.

donquixotedelamancha · 02/11/2023 20:11

VeronicaSawyer89 · 02/11/2023 19:17

The BBC, apparently they're "militants".

That's not the same as the BBC saying they aren't terrorists. The BBC always use the term terrorist in specific contexts, they tend to call all such organisations militants.

donquixotedelamancha · 02/11/2023 20:08

Stomacharmeleon · 02/11/2023 19:24

I thought it was 'prescribed' terrorist organisation.

As in, you need a doctor's note to join?

Stomacharmeleon · 02/11/2023 19:25

@Redlarge the posts have been removed but they were on here. Not many but some. Sorry for the delay I was going back through various threads.

Stomacharmeleon · 02/11/2023 19:24

I thought it was 'prescribed' terrorist organisation.

VeronicaSawyer89 · 02/11/2023 19:17

Whoha · 02/11/2023 17:21

Have you not heard anyone saying that Hamas is not a terrorist organization?

The BBC, apparently they're "militants".

JustALittlePotatooo · 02/11/2023 19:01

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 02/11/2023 18:54

Facts:
The last election in Gaza was 25 January 2006.
Hamas took over the Gaza strip in June 2007.

Opinion:
Hamas are a bunch of unelected nutters.
Anyone who thinks they truly represent Gaza is probably also a bit of a nutter.

Hamas were elected after they'd already been designated a terrorist organisation. They literally chose to have terrorists represent them. And now people are surprised their elected terrorists haven't been calling for elections as regularly as they should?

They have support. Please stop pretending they don't. It wasn't Hamas-opponents who were out celebrating the massacre in Israel a month ago.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 02/11/2023 18:54

Facts:
The last election in Gaza was 25 January 2006.
Hamas took over the Gaza strip in June 2007.

Opinion:
Hamas are a bunch of unelected nutters.
Anyone who thinks they truly represent Gaza is probably also a bit of a nutter.

Redlarge · 02/11/2023 18:45

Stomacharmeleon · 02/11/2023 18:35

@Redlarge I was literally on a thread today that said Hamas was justified. On here.

Pin it on here

DyslexicPoster · 02/11/2023 18:43

amylou8 · 02/11/2023 17:29

I haven't seen anyone defending Hamas. I have heard people defending the innocent civilians in Gaza. Although what choice Israel have I don't know.

This really. you can hate Hamas and feel sorry for civilian deaths in Gaza and feel sorry for Israel deaths? No one wins in this situation. Its not totally binary is it? It's not as simple as that is it? There are evil acts on both sides and maybe both sides have people who are in hell right now who have never wanted to kill anyone ever?

donquixotedelamancha · 02/11/2023 18:41

Stomacharmeleon · 02/11/2023 18:17

@donquixotedelamancha I imagine in his defence most people wouldn't be thinking logically if everyone they loved was murdered.

And yes that goes both ways.

But there has been 16 (?) ceasefires and all of them have been broken by Hamas. Israel have no choice but to rid Gaza of them. Hamas doesn't hold back in what it intends so I don't know why people refuse to listen.

Because it's just Jews?

Let's say pressure gets to Israel and they ceasefire. What do the general public honestly think will happen then? They will see it as weakness and all hell will break lose. And people on here complain of 'freedom fighters' 'genocide' and 'apartheid'

And sadly those who are most vocal would be decidedly less vocal if they lived under Hamas. But it's ok to inflict your opinions and bandy words from the safety of the uk though isn't it. Not many will know of actual daily terror.

Completely agree. I am not equipped to judge someone who has watched his family be murdered.

I was just illustrating how each act of violence generates even more hate.

ColumboOnTheCase · 02/11/2023 18:40

'Because it's just Jews?'

@NotSuchASmugMarried Its's not about to he Jews though is it?

There are Jewish people who are disgusted by the Israeli government you don't speak for everyone.

https://themessenger.com/news/orthodox-jews-assaulted-by-israeli-police-officers-in-jerusalem

It's about a bunch of bullies who will stop at nothing and the rest of the world has ringside seat to a genocide, just watching and waiting.

Orthodox Jews Assaulted by Israeli Police Officers in Jerusalem

Orthodox Jews Assaulted by Israeli Police Officers in Jerusalem

Video circulating social media seemingly shows Israeli police officers assault a group of Orthodox Jews in a Jerusalem neighborhood.

https://themessenger.com/news/orthodox-jews-assaulted-by-israeli-police-officers-in-jerusalem

Stomacharmeleon · 02/11/2023 18:35

@Redlarge I was literally on a thread today that said Hamas was justified. On here.

Redlarge · 02/11/2023 18:24

GrumpyPanda · 02/11/2023 17:02

Isreals funding and finances are incredibly interesting.

ColumboOnTheCase · 02/11/2023 18:22

Flopsythebunny · 02/11/2023 17:58

According to Hamas

How many do you think there are then?
Ten? Fifty? One hundred? Two hundred?

How many will be enough for you to be too disgusted and ashamed to try and justify what Israel are doing.

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/child-casualties-gaza-growing-stain-our-collective-conscience

NEW YORK/AMMAN, 24 October 2023 – Over the past 18 days, the Gaza Strip has borne witness to a devastating toll on its children, with a reported 2,360 fatalities

Child casualties in Gaza “a growing stain on our collective conscience”

UNICEF is calling for an immediate ceasefire and for sustained and unimpeded access for humanitarian assistance

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/child-casualties-gaza-growing-stain-our-collective-conscience

Redlarge · 02/11/2023 18:22

Flopsythebunny · 02/11/2023 17:58

According to Hamas

Its quite obvious that they have. Genocide playing out before the worlds eyes.
Plus committed heinous war crimes on a massive scale and continue to do so as we speak.

Redlarge · 02/11/2023 18:20

Not come across anyone supporting Hamas.

Have come across a lot of justifications for Isreals mass murder and destruction of Gaza, though.

Stomacharmeleon · 02/11/2023 18:19

It will be interesting to see how the marches are policed and how people behave this weekend particularly as it's Remembrance weekend.

Stomacharmeleon · 02/11/2023 18:17

@donquixotedelamancha I imagine in his defence most people wouldn't be thinking logically if everyone they loved was murdered.

And yes that goes both ways.

But there has been 16 (?) ceasefires and all of them have been broken by Hamas. Israel have no choice but to rid Gaza of them. Hamas doesn't hold back in what it intends so I don't know why people refuse to listen.

Because it's just Jews?

Let's say pressure gets to Israel and they ceasefire. What do the general public honestly think will happen then? They will see it as weakness and all hell will break lose. And people on here complain of 'freedom fighters' 'genocide' and 'apartheid'

And sadly those who are most vocal would be decidedly less vocal if they lived under Hamas. But it's ok to inflict your opinions and bandy words from the safety of the uk though isn't it. Not many will know of actual daily terror.

Condo · 02/11/2023 18:01

Exactly OP - I’ve been so shocked by what I have seen around this conflict. Theirs is an ideology which would see us all back in the dark ages. My heart bleeds for innocent civilians but the PP asking the question of what Isreal should do is spot on. There is undeniable anti semitism and calls for jihad as part of the protests - I wish the police would ban them as they have in France and Germany. The potential for civil unrest this weekend is huge if Remembrance Day is disrespected.

Flopsythebunny · 02/11/2023 17:58

ColumboOnTheCase · 02/11/2023 17:29

I don't see Israel behaving well.

Murdered more than 3600 children so far.

According to Hamas

ColumboOnTheCase · 02/11/2023 17:56

Ididivfama · 02/11/2023 17:44

And this is why I think it’s much more difficult than saying “Israel should just stop.”

Even though I personally want them to stop.

What would you do if you lived in Israel? you’d seen friends and family members be raped and murdered, babies stolen. Would you just stop? Very easy to say you would.

'Just stop killingchildren' you mean?

Let's face it Israel have been killing Palestinian children for a while now they are properly in heir element now.

2022 BECOMES THE DEADLIEST YEAR FOR PALESTINIAN CHILDREN IN THE WEST BANK IN OVER 15 YEARS – SAVE THE CHILDREN
https://www.savethechildren.net/news/2022-becomes-deadliest-year-palestinian-children-west-bank-over-15-years-save-children

Looks like in 2023 they are looking at getting rid of them all.

Not planning on leaving any for 2024.

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