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M&S Christmas ad

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Green777 · 02/11/2023 09:08

M&S now deleted Christmas ad has been heavily criticised for burning hats in the colour of the Palestine flag and for the reflection of a blue and white flame burning in the eye of a smirking Sophie Ellis-Baxter.

Lots of people are boycotting M&S for the ‘dark and twisted’ post supposedly celebrating the genocide of Palestine even though M&S say it was filmed before the 7th October attack from Hamas, pointing out the founder of M&S as being a Zionist.

It does seem to be very much a coincidence?

M&S Christmas ad
M&S Christmas ad
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Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:49

@Wwwnothingdotcom

You’re embarrassing yourself now…my god.

Please do go back to hunting the internet for batshit conspiracy theories.

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Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 11:47

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:40

@Wwwnothingdotcom

oh.my.god! This is the most batshit crazy thing I’ve ever seen to date!

are you referring to me? This is the best conspiracy theory I’ve ever seen!

number 7 has always been my lucky number, I assure you I had this username before Oct 7th.

But it doesn't matter you had the username ready before, no? It's offensive anyway.

It's not just the 7. There are no coincodences so green and 3x7 is just obviously a subliminal messaging. Innit

OhHelloTheres · 03/11/2023 11:45

Honestly OP, I think you need to just take a step back and accept this is not some kind of weird conspiracy. If you keep doubling down on this no one on here is going to take anything else you say about Gaza etc seriously. It's too absurd. Accept it's not offensive and then move on with your life.

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:45

@Totallymessed

Again, please calm down. No one is saying it’s a conspiracy on this thread.

I’m simply reporting that mandy people are offended and feel that M&S might have reflected better on their choice of ad in view of what’s happening in the world. That is all.

It is a sensitive issue and there are many ‘idiots’ as you call them, that are deeply affected by the plight of the Palestinians.

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Totallymessed · 03/11/2023 11:42

Green777 · 02/11/2023 09:08

M&S now deleted Christmas ad has been heavily criticised for burning hats in the colour of the Palestine flag and for the reflection of a blue and white flame burning in the eye of a smirking Sophie Ellis-Baxter.

Lots of people are boycotting M&S for the ‘dark and twisted’ post supposedly celebrating the genocide of Palestine even though M&S say it was filmed before the 7th October attack from Hamas, pointing out the founder of M&S as being a Zionist.

It does seem to be very much a coincidence?

This is truly the most bonkers conspiracy theory craziness I have ever read on Mumsnet. And that's against some strong competition.

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:41

This is amazing.

The same posters talking about conspiracy theories have dug up some random thing do to with the number 7 in my username 🤣🤣🤣

Absolutely amazing, well done.

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quantumbutterfly · 03/11/2023 11:41

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 02:04

It's bloody ridiculous. People are insane.
One lot are bitching because there aren't enough white people in it and they are burning Christmas cards

Another lot are complaining about the colour of the paper hats. It took me ages to work out why people were complaining. As someone pointed out it's not the only flag in those colours.

Next people will be criticising the use of the word Christmas because it has some of the same letters as Hamas.

Oh they already are! It's insanity.

Useful idiots.

OhHelloTheres · 03/11/2023 11:40

Ok, I take it back. I thought that was the original picture in question but I was wrong.

Still not offensive though. Unless you're looking for offense.

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:40

@Wwwnothingdotcom

oh.my.god! This is the most batshit crazy thing I’ve ever seen to date!

are you referring to me? This is the best conspiracy theory I’ve ever seen!

number 7 has always been my lucky number, I assure you I had this username before Oct 7th.

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quantumbutterfly · 03/11/2023 11:39

piscofrisco · 02/11/2023 09:15

I mean don't they film these ads in July or something? And I Woodings even have noticed. The colours of the Palestinian flag are also traditionally the colours of Christmas-and the blue is just showcasing their eye make up range. People will read anything into anything it seems to me!

Ditto

SomeCatFromJapan · 03/11/2023 11:37

@Wwwnothingdotcom actually that's far more plausible than the M&S lunacy. I suspect this poster is not without an agenda.

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:37

Also not cropped…

deemed ‘sensitive image’.

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Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:36

@OhHelloTheres

The cropping has nothing to do with it.

Also M&S have posted a video of just her eye from the add, not cropped at all. Check it out before you continue saying everything’s been intensely cropped.

M&S Christmas ad
M&S Christmas ad
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OhHelloTheres · 03/11/2023 11:28

queenofarles · 03/11/2023 11:21

anyone remembers the American band CD cover wit the twin towers burning? They too made it months before 9/11 , but still they decided not to release it and create a new one instead,

was the M&S cover intentional? No , but releasing it was in very poor taste , in a very sensitive time, from a big company with a big Muslim and Arab base shoppers .
and I honestly think anyone watching the latest news would have seen the connection straight away.

This seems to be the actual image before the intense cropping. I highly doubt people would have seen the connection straight away unless they were looking for something to be offended by

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Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 11:28

Guys, don't argue with shitstirrer who obviously sympathises with certain hate groups. Why else would they pick that username. No such thing as a coincidence, is there according to them 🤷
https://www.nbc12.com/2020/08/03/maggie-l-walker-historic-gravesite-spray-painted/?outputType=amp

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:25

@queenofarles

This!

Its just a matter of respect for the innocent lives being lost.

For example, Alicia Keys posted straight after the Oct 7th attack that she’d love to take up paragliding with the ‘👀’ emoji.

This outraged people as it was taken that she was condoning the horrific Hamas attack on innocents.

Some may say, as she did, that it was totally innocent and coincidental. But to me, I understand why people would be offended by the awful timing of that post (even if it was innocent).

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graciousmouse · 03/11/2023 11:25

Ref this comment:

"Absolute nonsense. The palestinian flag is red, green, white & black. The hats are christmas colours red, green & silver. The blue eye shadow conspiracy theory is too nonsensical to even discuss.

This is very clear antisemitism because M&S started as a Jewish company.

It does reveal the conspiracist frame of mind of many people though."

But you're doing the same thing - promoting a conspiracy that the people bemoaning it are "anti-semitic"?

SomeCatFromJapan · 03/11/2023 11:24

You know it's inevitable there will be a "Muslims are cancelling our Christmas" blowback to this nonsense.
Thanks guys, way to pointlessly ramp up social tensions.

OhHelloTheres · 03/11/2023 11:24

They did the same with my neighbours hedge, as I explained earlier

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Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 11:24

@Green777 i find your username offensive. Shows who you are.

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:22

@OhHelloTheres

Ahhh now the images are imaginary.

Can you explain why Mumsnet would have put ‘SENSITIVE IMAGE’ to the imaginary fire with the imaginary hats?

I mean why would they do that?

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queenofarles · 03/11/2023 11:21

anyone remembers the American band CD cover wit the twin towers burning? They too made it months before 9/11 , but still they decided not to release it and create a new one instead,

was the M&S cover intentional? No , but releasing it was in very poor taste , in a very sensitive time, from a big company with a big Muslim and Arab base shoppers .
and I honestly think anyone watching the latest news would have seen the connection straight away.

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:19

Thankfully your dismissal of what’s happening in Gaza isn’t representative of people who can feel sympathy for BOTH sides of innocents being killed.

Your post glorifying Israel and denigrating the rest of the ME is very telling. As well as you downplaying what’s currently happening in Gaza. Heartless.

Calling people who care about it ‘idiots’. What a nasty post.

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DevonWindyWeather · 03/11/2023 11:18

@OhHelloTheres indeed, so subtle and almost imagined that you really have to look and look and ignore other colours on the advert to make a link to have a moan about. 😉 Some people are frankly ridiculous aren't they.

OhHelloTheres · 03/11/2023 11:15

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:11

@AgingDisgracefullyHere

As far as I can see from comments of people that are very offended by this, they also agree that the details are subtle. They don’t think M&S would have got away with anything more obvious. Being subtle or ‘subliminal’ doesn’t make it less offensive to them though.

And looking at the details, with this war going on, I do find it understandable that it could cause offence.

In fact, one might say they're so subtle they're imaginary