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M&S Christmas ad

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Green777 · 02/11/2023 09:08

M&S now deleted Christmas ad has been heavily criticised for burning hats in the colour of the Palestine flag and for the reflection of a blue and white flame burning in the eye of a smirking Sophie Ellis-Baxter.

Lots of people are boycotting M&S for the ‘dark and twisted’ post supposedly celebrating the genocide of Palestine even though M&S say it was filmed before the 7th October attack from Hamas, pointing out the founder of M&S as being a Zionist.

It does seem to be very much a coincidence?

M&S Christmas ad
M&S Christmas ad
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queenofarles · 03/11/2023 14:47

not all Marketing do their work right or test their product in a wider demographic , No one claims to be more inclusive than Dove and yet they’ve came up with an AD where a black woman removes her dark top to reveal a white woman in a lighter top, please tell me how this passed every stage from brainstorming to filming without anyone raising any concerns?

PianPianPiano · 03/11/2023 13:07

Green777 · 03/11/2023 10:45

@AgingDisgracefullyHere

Anyone in marketing knows how rigorously screened campaigns like this are with many meetings discussing each and every second and shot.

Of course they knew and aired it anyway because they can use the excuse that it was created before Oct 7th.

No company in their right mind would dare to post that with what’s happening now, unless…

I'm in marketing. Can absolutely guarantee that nobody in my company would have made this association, and it would have gone out.

OhHelloTheres · 03/11/2023 13:01

I think they get the point now, probably best to stop making fun of OP and others who feel similar to them. It won't help anyone. Either we have convinced them it's utter nonsense or we haven't - ridiculing isn't going to help anyone see sense.

Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 12:50

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 12:47

I'm going to the shops later. Is it safe to wear my blue jumper or will people think I support Israel?

Depends where you are. If you don't add white you might just get bit spat on. May be because Israel or people will think you are supporting Everton. Who should change logo. Tsk

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 12:47

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:45

@Totallymessed

Again, please calm down. No one is saying it’s a conspiracy on this thread.

I’m simply reporting that mandy people are offended and feel that M&S might have reflected better on their choice of ad in view of what’s happening in the world. That is all.

It is a sensitive issue and there are many ‘idiots’ as you call them, that are deeply affected by the plight of the Palestinians.

I'm going to the shops later. Is it safe to wear my blue jumper or will people think I support Israel?

DevonWindyWeather · 03/11/2023 12:45

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 12:44

an add with these images in a time of war with both flags

You DO realise there aren't actually any flags in it?

Perhaps person that suggested both flags should visit Specsavers?

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 12:44

an add with these images in a time of war with both flags

You DO realise there aren't actually any flags in it?

DevonWindyWeather · 03/11/2023 12:40

quantumbutterfly · 03/11/2023 12:33

Maybe it's cultural appropriation. Who had it first? Rastafarianism or traffic lights...or culture club?

I've consulted my favourite influencer and am reliably informed that's is a nail range for late Autumn moving on to early Christmas 🎄 available in Gel in matte or sparkly for those more outrageous amongst us. 💚❤💛🥳

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 12:34

I was reading news articles in Ireland yesterday criticising the ad because they were burning the Irish tricolour so it looks like M&S are unintentionally offending a lot of people!

And Italy and Wales. I saw this on Twitter - it is a joke btw.

M&S Christmas ad
DevonWindyWeather · 03/11/2023 12:34

quantumbutterfly · 03/11/2023 12:28

Are you suggesting that red,green and gold are offensive colours. How very dare you.

Seriously, don't you know what's going on in the world. Do your own research on Tic Toc, U Tubeeee, X or Insta and get yourself informed. Off you trot and no further use of Green and Red with any hint of flashing Amber. Fires with similar colours are now frowned upon.

Firework night soon 🤔 only use orange ones I think that they are preferable and shouldn't upset anyone (unless informed tic toc- ers know of the latest research of course)

quantumbutterfly · 03/11/2023 12:33

Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 12:29

The traffic lights are probably hat way foretold we will attack Bolivia once. Down with the lights. They should all be grey

Maybe it's cultural appropriation. Who had it first? Rastafarianism or traffic lights...or culture club?

Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 12:29

The traffic lights are probably hat way foretold we will attack Bolivia once. Down with the lights. They should all be grey

quantumbutterfly · 03/11/2023 12:28

DevonWindyWeather · 03/11/2023 12:24

I'm rather concerned about traffic lights. I mean they are green and red with a flashing Amber which obviously signifies fire. We really need to have a rethink of the traffic light colours since we are being very offensive here. Perhaps now is the time to consider less problematic colours to show support and not cause further offence.

Are you suggesting that red,green and gold are offensive colours. How very dare you.

DevonWindyWeather · 03/11/2023 12:24

I'm rather concerned about traffic lights. I mean they are green and red with a flashing Amber which obviously signifies fire. We really need to have a rethink of the traffic light colours since we are being very offensive here. Perhaps now is the time to consider less problematic colours to show support and not cause further offence.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 03/11/2023 12:20

No, I don't think there are any hidden messages. The only message I can see is the overt one 'Do only what you love at Christmas' which does seem to ignore the complexities of life ... but might be a reflection of current mores.

I prefer the singing oven gloves.

HoldOnMiGenna · 03/11/2023 12:18

Big "lol!" at the complete lack of sense of humour and irony for the OG conspiracy theorist in this thread.
My mum did use to say that the only way to fight "crazy" is by being crazy.
And it's worked beautifully on this thread.
The only thread to provide levity pertaining to the current conflict.

Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 12:02

I stand by what I said.
We are obviously in free for all since eyeshadow is now sign of malice and whatever, why not actual hate crime symbol as username.

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:56

@Wwwnothingdotcom

Ah how clever of you, very well done. Attacking my username with random conspiracy theories really does make sense in comparison to what I originally was reporting on.

At no point have I said I believe any conspiracy theory btw, I’ve said I can see how people may be offended by it being posted at the height of a war…

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Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:54

@graciousmouse it’s actually quite funny isn’t it. When people run out of arguments they attack you personally assigning such malice with random conspiracy theories.

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Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 11:53

I don't think pointing out certain coincidences is derailing a thread about certain coincidences...
Quite on point actually

graciousmouse · 03/11/2023 11:52

some people on this thread are honestly batshit and I don't mean the OP.

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:51

And stop derailing with your lunatic musings on my username…

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Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 11:51

Funny the things people will take offence at and look for.

Absolutely

Green777 · 03/11/2023 11:50

@Wwwnothingdotcom

You’re off your trolley 🤣

I’d never heard of this 777 thing but if it offends I’m glad to change it.

Funny the things people will take offence at and look for.

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Wwwnothingdotcom · 03/11/2023 11:50

I don't have to go anywhere. Plenty right here😂

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