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backtowinter · 02/11/2023 12:09

Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 12:03

@ganondoof I don't agree with Hamas, I have condemned them many times
But I'm sick and tired of being told that the Israeli government do really care about palestinian civilians because the majority don't
And these views shape their actions in this war

And what are your views on the OP? You know, the topic of the thread

OhHelloTheres · 02/11/2023 12:08

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 02/11/2023 12:03

@OhHelloTheres to be fair though. They have never been able to have a re election. The last one was supposed to be 2021 but was postponed because Israel had not allowed those in Jerusalem to vote

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/29/992065009/palestinian-authority-postpones-parliamentary-elections

Right so "to be fair", Hamas are also in the West Bank.

Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 12:03

@ganondoof I don't agree with Hamas, I have condemned them many times
But I'm sick and tired of being told that the Israeli government do really care about palestinian civilians because the majority don't
And these views shape their actions in this war

Horrificallyuntidy · 02/11/2023 12:03

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backtowinter · 02/11/2023 12:03

Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:57

And so on and so forth
You get the gist

So you've turned up on the thread to indulge in a spot of whataboutism

Why is that?

SomeCatFromJapan · 02/11/2023 12:02

Unbelievable. A thread quite literally about Hamas announcing to the world in the clearest and most unequivocal terms exactly who they are, what their goal is and how much of a shit they give about Palestinian civilians, and you still get a bunch of useful idiots frantically attempting to do their PR for them.

EasterIssland · 02/11/2023 12:02

Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 12:01

Ofcourse they could
But majority of these are people in power or who hold significant positions in Israel
And all of these comments were made after the war started

Imagine if Sunak said these comments about France or Ireland …. 🤦🏻‍♀️ but it’s ok it’s Israel. They can say whatever they want (& do)

backtowinter · 02/11/2023 12:02

@EasterIssland I'm saying I would take anything that person posted with a tonne of salt

She has form for posting misinformation

Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 12:01

ganondoof · 02/11/2023 12:00

Yes, I'm sure if someone wanted to they could spam the thread with quotes taken from social media with no source consisting of individual Israelis saying nice things, or individual Palestinians saying bad things.

Ofcourse they could
But majority of these are people in power or who hold significant positions in Israel
And all of these comments were made after the war started

OhHelloTheres · 02/11/2023 12:01

@Fairtobefairohhhhhc
There is Hamas in the West Bank too. Goes to show how much you actually know about any of this

ganondoof · 02/11/2023 12:00

Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:57

And so on and so forth
You get the gist

Yes, I'm sure if someone wanted to they could spam the thread with quotes taken from social media with no source consisting of individual Israelis saying nice things, or individual Palestinians saying bad things.

OhHelloTheres · 02/11/2023 11:58

So what we're saying is that Israel has to not only defend itself but also protect Palestinians from Hamas but they can't go in by foot to do so because the world has spent almost a month begging them not to, and if they do so they'll be accused of trying to steal land, but they also can't do it from the air. Does no one else see how impossible this is?

And for everyone trying to explain away Hamas actions as being as a result of Israeli oppression - does no one else remember suicide bombers entering Israel on a regular basis? Does no one remember Sbarro in 2001? So before Hamas were elected... As in, the people of Gaza knew exactly who they were when they voted for Hamas. They knew. Yet almost 45% voted for them. Much, much higher numbers than that in northern Gaza though.

Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:57

And so on and so forth
You get the gist

Horrificallyuntidy · 02/11/2023 11:57

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:56

No mercy

Hamas official declares "we will repeat Oct. 7 attacks until Israel is 'finished'"
Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:55

Only targeting Hamas ofcourse

Hamas official declares "we will repeat Oct. 7 attacks until Israel is 'finished'"
Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:55

Another charming Israeli politician

Hamas official declares "we will repeat Oct. 7 attacks until Israel is 'finished'"
Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:54

Respected war veteran whilst addressing Israeli reservists

Hamas official declares "we will repeat Oct. 7 attacks until Israel is 'finished'"
Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 02/11/2023 11:54

Thank you @Parkingt111

Literally hiding in plain site.

Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:53

I'm sure many of you have seen Yoav Gallant on the news

Hamas official declares "we will repeat Oct. 7 attacks until Israel is 'finished'"
Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:53

From Netanyahu himself

Hamas official declares "we will repeat Oct. 7 attacks until Israel is 'finished'"
Parkingt111 · 02/11/2023 11:52

Whilst many on here can agree that Hamas are terrorists let's no pretend that the Israeli government really care about the Palestinians either

Hamas official declares "we will repeat Oct. 7 attacks until Israel is 'finished'"
EasterIssland · 02/11/2023 11:52

backtowinter · 02/11/2023 11:51

Are you aware that this person has form for propaganda and is constantly community-noted on twitter?

So what they’re screaming never happened then?