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ketchup07070 · 01/11/2023 21:33

HoldOnMiGenna · 01/11/2023 19:06

Well, to be fair, nowhere has the Israeli government stated that its aim is the destruction of what is considered Palestine.
But the government has stated it's aim is to eradicate Hamas.
So it isn't the same thing as the clear and stated aim of Hamas as to the destruction of Israel being its main aim....far above the creation of a Palestine.

The founding charter of Netanyahu's Likud party states that 'between the sea and the Jordan there will be only Israeli sovereignty.' That sounds like there's no room for a Palestine in the government's vision?
‘From the river to the sea’: where does the slogan come from and what does it mean? | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian

‘From the river to the sea’: where does the slogan come from and what does it mean?

Andy McDonald was suspended from the Labour party for using the phrase, which some say advocates the eradication of Israel

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/from-the-river-to-the-sea-where-does-the-slogan-come-from-and-what-does-it-mean-israel-palestine

EasterIssland · 01/11/2023 21:25

Im a bit surprised that you all are surprised that someone high up from Hamas has said this. I mean … they’re just saying what their purpose has always been aren’t they?

EasternStandard · 01/11/2023 21:20

PurpleChrayne · 01/11/2023 21:19

Denying the right of Israel to exist is one of the widely agreed-upon tenets of Anti-Semitism. Why are you such a consistently vile anti-Semite? What did we ever do to you? Do you get so wound up about other conflicts that have precisely zero to do with you? Idiotic rhetoric like yours is placing people like me in danger.

It’s horrendous to see. I’m glad mnhq delete quickly

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Denying the right of Israel to exist is one of the widely agreed-upon tenets of Anti-Semitism. Why are you such a consistently vile anti-Semite? What did we ever do to you? Do you get so wound up about other conflicts that have precisely zero to do with you? Idiotic rhetoric like yours is placing people like me in danger.

Namedmyself · 01/11/2023 21:14

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CapitaineBelkacem · 01/11/2023 20:53

I mean, even if that were true - which I refute, and btw the sources you have posted are a joke - I don't see what difference it would make to the fact that Hamas carried out the atrocities of 7th October and has stated that it intends to do the same again until everyone in Israel is dead.

Noicant · 01/11/2023 20:14

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I don’t think anyones shocked that they are bad. It’s the completely unashamed admission that they literally give no shits about civilians. Not one iota of feeling there, the complete absence of any concern or duty to them. The admission of complete indifference is something more than bad, it’s psychopathic.

They churn our fatality numbers as a propaganda, there are idiots out there supporting them and glorifying the attacks claiming to be pro-Palestinian and they aren’t, they are pro hamas.

CapitaineBelkacem · 01/11/2023 20:05

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 01/11/2023 19:59

This is utter bullshit

Horrificallyuntidy · 01/11/2023 20:03

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EasternStandard · 01/11/2023 19:49

Noicant · 01/11/2023 19:47

I don’t understand how people can skim past the fact that the leaders of Gaza (who Gazans appear to be stuck with whether they like it or not, I posted before about the protest movements within Gaza against Hamas) celebrate their deaths.

Netanyahu isn’t out there saying everytime an Israeli dies he feels a bit more invigorated and motivated. I think Israel’s view is the norm which is every death due to a terror attack is tragic and/ or a failure of government.

Hamas are completely mental. Jeez I pity the Gazans that this is who they ended up with.

I do too. But also concerning for the world generally

It’s extremely destructive, depraved and violent

Noicant · 01/11/2023 19:47

I don’t understand how people can skim past the fact that the leaders of Gaza (who Gazans appear to be stuck with whether they like it or not, I posted before about the protest movements within Gaza against Hamas) celebrate their deaths.

Netanyahu isn’t out there saying everytime an Israeli dies he feels a bit more invigorated and motivated. I think Israel’s view is the norm which is every death due to a terror attack is tragic and/ or a failure of government.

Hamas are completely mental. Jeez I pity the Gazans that this is who they ended up with.

sleepyscientist · 01/11/2023 19:44

We are ultimately responsible for this by creating the modern day state of Israel. On one hand you have a terrorist organisation that needs to be irradicated but instead of using one the best armies on the planet to target attacks on the ground they are carpet bombing children. You then have a leader calling for Jihad hiding behind the innocent.

It's looking more and more like dealing with children fighting over a toy, that if you can't share no one can have it. Looking on the only solution seems to be a two state solution (maybe moving Gaza to the side of the West Bank so it's not isolated) administered by a neutral party (I.e. not America or Iran) like NATO possibly for decades to come.

Horrificallyuntidy · 01/11/2023 19:37

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Bigminnie1 · 01/11/2023 19:33

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The Israeli Government wants to destroy Hamas.

PurpleChrayne · 01/11/2023 19:32

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HoldOnMiGenna · 01/11/2023 19:06

Well, to be fair, nowhere has the Israeli government stated that its aim is the destruction of what is considered Palestine.
But the government has stated it's aim is to eradicate Hamas.
So it isn't the same thing as the clear and stated aim of Hamas as to the destruction of Israel being its main aim....far above the creation of a Palestine.

Yep. Western supporters love to talk about Israel’s (non-existent) ‘genocide’ of Palestinians but are, at best, completely silent about Hamas’s overtly stated intent to commit racist genocide against Israeli’s, or actively applaud Hamas as ‘exhilarating’ ‘freedom fighters’ . The antisemitism in this bias could not be more plain.

HoldOnMiGenna · 01/11/2023 19:06

Well, to be fair, nowhere has the Israeli government stated that its aim is the destruction of what is considered Palestine.
But the government has stated it's aim is to eradicate Hamas.
So it isn't the same thing as the clear and stated aim of Hamas as to the destruction of Israel being its main aim....far above the creation of a Palestine.

Horrificallyuntidy · 01/11/2023 18:55

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Mrburnshound · 01/11/2023 18:55

Humanity is fucked.