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SomeCatFromJapan · 01/11/2023 18:14

Because telling Netanyahu ‘I want you to win’ means you accept that thousands of innocent people will die and that that isn’t a problem for you; it means you’re the kind of human being that can still sleep at night despite everything we are seeing on our screens

And if Hamas win, Israel is wiped out.
Believe me I don't like any of this bloodshed in the slightest but Hamas could surrender right now and end this.

TakeMe2Insanity · 01/11/2023 18:11

juju99 · 01/11/2023 06:43

As a Muslim, I feel people don’t care about Muslim deaths. Had more than 8,000 white people been killed over the past three weeks, we’d be seeing more action from our leaders. In fact, the death toll in three weeks would probably have not even reached that number. No one is saying that Bolivia is a county to admire, but I am glad that, finally, one country has taken action, which I hope leads to others doing the same.

On the topic of hypocrisy, the greatest democracies in the world are also full of hypocrisy.

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Very well said. I also agree as a muslim. Just the response to Ukraine v whats happening in Gaza is just astounding.

juju99 · 01/11/2023 18:10

SomeCatFromJapan · 01/11/2023 17:26

I don't actually understand people taking objection to Sunak stating he hopes Israel wins. What's the alternative? Hamas wins?

Because telling Netanyahu ‘I want you to win’ means you accept that thousands of innocent people will die and that that isn’t a problem for you; it means you’re the kind of human being that can still sleep at night despite everything we are seeing on our screens. The fact that the leader of our country doesn’t give a shit about such horrific treatment of innocent people should worry us all - I mean, if his conscience can live with that, imagine what else he would be happy to accept.

SomeCatFromJapan · 01/11/2023 18:09

My problem to it is what does the word win mean. What does the future look like for the people from Gaza after Israel wins

I don't know, but their present is/was pretty bleak. If by win it means no Hamas in charge and some sort of hope of less completely hostile relations, maybe better. I hope. Or maybe I'm being naive.

OrangeChoc · 01/11/2023 18:06

PurpleChrayne · 31/10/2023 21:31

Bolivia 🤣

Why is it funny?

Seems to me that Bolivia is the only country with the morals and the guts to stand up for what is right and then you get idiots laughing at them ? No wonder we are in the mess we are in.

grottyb · 01/11/2023 18:02

We deserve leadership with a functioning moral compass!

What does that actually look like?

HeidiInTheBigCity · 01/11/2023 17:58

Rishi needs to go! No debate!

I mean, I WOULD say "I am ashamed to be British" - but not only did I not vote for the spineless, shameless billionnaire - NONE OF US DID (unless you happened to be at a certain party conference)!

Not only do the families of 7/10 victims deserve better
Not only have Palestinians deserved better for some 56 years

WE DESERVE BETTER at this point! We deserve leadership with a functioning moral compass!

Starmoonsu · 01/11/2023 17:49

The whole thing is a disgrace.

EasterIssland · 01/11/2023 17:47

SomeCatFromJapan · 01/11/2023 17:26

I don't actually understand people taking objection to Sunak stating he hopes Israel wins. What's the alternative? Hamas wins?

My problem to it is what does the word win mean. What does the future look like for the people from Gaza after Israel wins

SomeCatFromJapan · 01/11/2023 17:26

I don't actually understand people taking objection to Sunak stating he hopes Israel wins. What's the alternative? Hamas wins?

flufferknutter · 01/11/2023 09:23

gratedbluecheese · 01/11/2023 09:22

Now Chile and Columbia are doing the same thing! The cards are falling....

Fingers crossed 🤞

gratedbluecheese · 01/11/2023 09:22

Now Chile and Columbia are doing the same thing! The cards are falling....

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user701 · 01/11/2023 06:48

And chile

user701 · 01/11/2023 06:47

Colombia also withdrawn diplomats

juju99 · 01/11/2023 06:43

redfacebigdisgrace · 31/10/2023 22:28

Not condoning news coming out of Gaza which is quite horrific.

The hypocrisy of Bolivia though. Suits them to sever ties with Israel but maintain ties with Russia and China.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/bolivia-seals-14-bln-lithium-deals-with-russias-rosatom-chinas-guoan-2023-06-29/

As a Muslim, I feel people don’t care about Muslim deaths. Had more than 8,000 white people been killed over the past three weeks, we’d be seeing more action from our leaders. In fact, the death toll in three weeks would probably have not even reached that number. No one is saying that Bolivia is a county to admire, but I am glad that, finally, one country has taken action, which I hope leads to others doing the same.

On the topic of hypocrisy, the greatest democracies in the world are also full of hypocrisy.

EasterIssland · 31/10/2023 23:50

Just seen Belgium will not provide weapons to Israel
https://twitter.com/BTnewsroom/status/1719430620839883245

https://twitter.com/BTnewsroom/status/1719430620839883245

ketchup07070 · 31/10/2023 22:02

juju99 · 31/10/2023 21:37

I think the fact it’s a country like Bolivia makes it even more shameful that none of the so-called western democracies have spoken out to end the killing of innocent men, women and children.

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Spain has been quite forthright?

ssd · 31/10/2023 21:57

Our politicians have utterly disgraced themselves. Sunak looking up to Netanyahu saying i hope Israel win is an image I hope haunts him one day.

FOJN · 31/10/2023 21:54

juju99 · 31/10/2023 21:37

I think the fact it’s a country like Bolivia makes it even more shameful that none of the so-called western democracies have spoken out to end the killing of innocent men, women and children.

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I agree. Bolivia doesn't have a great human rights record, if they are so appalled they are willing to cut diplomatic ties then it probably means you're doing something really bad.

What's our excuse? Sunak is fucking spineless. Someone should tell him the Palestinians don't have time for subtle diplomacy, they need help right now.

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Ohlalalalala · 31/10/2023 21:48

Roste · 31/10/2023 21:46

@juju99 , I agree. I will never forget what Sunak said and was left astounded at his stupidity. Sycophant.
Starmer is not much better. I feel politically homeless, neither party will get my vote.

Politically homeless, that's exactly how I feel right now.

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redfacebigdisgrace · 31/10/2023 21:48

Has Bolivia severed ties with Russia?

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Ohlalalalala · 31/10/2023 21:46

Please ladies, we all know that there are pps whose only job on Mumsnet is to derail threads about one topic. I would respectfully ask you to not engage with them. Please ignore silly comments and report offensive ones.
Let's focus on the most important stuff 🇵🇸.

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