Israel confirms

I think the thread and the topic should be deleted.

@sleepwouldbenice agreed. This thread should be deleted.

This thread is disgusting
Such self justification on both sides
Cant believe what I am reading

No, we're just not easily fooled. You must think people here are stupid, sorry to disappoint you. Times have moved on.

@Livinginanotherworld ’people have had enough’. Which people is this ? The 50 who ambushed a politician doing his job because they don’t agree with his stance ? The tiny echo chamber that you are operating in where no dissent or nuance is
allowed ?
The fact that you believe a terrorist organisation allied with other terrorist organisations that are quite happy to murder, rape and pillage innocent people elsewhere in the world says more about you.
The fact that you are quite happy to enable another 5 years of misrule by this pitiful government by creating the illusion of a split in the LP tells me you don’t give a shit about domestic events in your own country (if you are in the UK lol). Families and children in your own country are suffering right now, older people cannot afford to heat their homes but no, something you cannot control, that is massively complicated, is obviously of far more importance for middle aged class warriors.
Anti Semitic incidents have increased massively, jewish people are afraid to openly display that they are jewish because of potential abuse, such is the overheated atmosphere created by people like you. I suspect the same has happened with Islamophobic ones too.
The whole situation is an absolute Shit show, no one is condoning the deaths of children or any innocent people for that matter, but the constant threads like this, with multiple name changing, accusations of genocide aren’t helping at all.

The leader of the opposition who doesn't want a ceasefire ? Sad excuse for a man and needs to resign his seat.

People have had enough, anyone now who is an apologist for the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people should hang their heads in shame. Questionable links ? Or just ones that show what’s really happening in Gaza, not the Israeli backed msm and western governments. There is no intelligent discussion with others who sanction what’s happening now, there is no justification. Follow some credible journalists in the ME and see the appalling war crimes.

@ProvincialLady1 I’m done too with this whole board. Full of sixth form student activists and far left ideologues who are quite happy to spout information provided by fundamentalist terrorists and cannot see the irony in that. They’ve taken over this board, they shut down any intelligent discussion to the point that anyone with a different opinion is insulted and frightened off, constantly posting multitudes of questionable highly emotional links designed to inflame things rather than inspire discussion. The fact that you’ve got people with the same views physically harassing the leader of the opposition, banging on his car, chasing him down the road is a sad indictment of the situation.

Does it really that much how long it had been there? These were people without much money. Where could they have moved to? Are you blaming the dead for their deaths? Your lack of compassion is depressing to read.

And I say that as someone who feels sick for every innocent Israeli death and hatred for what Hamas did at that festival.

Good idea.

Telling people to leave when you know there is nowhere safe for them to go is a piss poor excuse for killing people by dropping 6 1ton bombs on their home. Especially if you are the one making the place you have told them to go to unsafe.

I'm correctly the misinformation in the thread, project what you want but I think it's important that somebody does. I'm now going to hide this thread and topic, I'm done.

Goodness me.
A neighbourhood which had been there for decades…..yes! Neighbourhood! With civilians….got that…..Thankyou
so
people homes ….ok. Got that

then you say

which the inhabitants were told to leave……

are you serious
are you justifying their massacre was acceptable because…oh well they were told to leave…..so that’s ok then ??!

Your comments are a disgrace.

Many were killed* ... I am referring to the Palestinian deaths in a very passive way to no offend you but that is awful. They didn't die, they were bombed and killed intentionally when they were told they were walking on safe routes.

You are justifying their deaths. They are innocent people. They have been told to flee south which was unsafe and many died. They have been told to flee every hospital in Gaza and many many other buildings. Is nowhere safe for them? ... Where would you go if you were a mother in Gaza? ... What would you trust was a safe place? ...

But equally those horrific events aren’t a justification for the atrocities being carried out by the Israeli government in Gaza.

It may be a war but there are international rules that need to be upheld. Israel does have the right to defend itself but what it is doing goes way beyond defence whatever excuses are being given.

Please don't try and manipulate me. My feelings don't matter one way or another, but as it happens I am deeply upset about the deaths of children on either side. But this thread is an antisemitic dumpster fire and even the headline is very misleading given we're actually talking about a permanent, full developed neighbourhood that's been there for decades, is located in the north of Gaza, and which the inhabitants were told to leave.

Direct that same feeling towards the children held in Israeli prisons without a fair trial. The child prisoners who are tortured and beaten.

It must be awful being an Israeli hostage without your family. Not knowing if you will get bombed by your own government. It must be awful and I can openly say that I feel for them and I hope they are returned safely.

Why can't you have a heart for the children of Palestine too?

I don't want to sound hysterical but I am actually deeply shocked at what I was reading and the absolute lack of shame. I feel very very upset.

What is happening now is making the situation worse. Clearly the aim is not to remove Hamas as it is an ideology. Those children who are starving and without water will grow up to hate the Israeli government.

But these actions won't end Hamas; they'll simply recruit a whole new cohort into the anti Israel movement and compound the problem in the region? Surely you can see that?

I can't believe they are now blaming refugees for not leaving a location they were taking refuge in ...

I am so confused with this logic.