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Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?

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elephantblock · 31/10/2023 17:42

Dozens dead

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Toothyfruity · 07/11/2023 22:31

SomeCatFromJapan · 07/11/2023 22:26

Would civilians leaving or being removed from an area about to become more of a conflict zone not be a least worst thing?

Oh yes. Ethnic cleansing is marvellous.

SomeCatFromJapan · 07/11/2023 22:26

Would civilians leaving or being removed from an area about to become more of a conflict zone not be a least worst thing?

Stomacharmeleon · 07/11/2023 22:24

@Efacsen they just need to say they are dead. That's all. To give the families peace. I don't deny that's likely.
@Ecdysiast I don't think Israel denies they are in prison. It's not a secret. There is no denial or 'we only attacked conscripts'.
It's the not knowing other side. I agree with letting families know their loved ones are ok.

Ecdysiast · 07/11/2023 21:54

@Stomacharmeleon And I'm sure Hamas will want some information from Israel on the whereabouts and well-being of the THOUSANDS of Palestinian political prisoners (from the West Bank as well as Gaza) being held hostage by Israel, including 160 children.

Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?
OuiOuiKitty · 07/11/2023 21:48

Stomacharmeleon · 07/11/2023 21:38

I am repeating myself as I have just said on the other thread.... I would want proof of life for all of them. I don't get or believe the vague Hamas line of ' what aren't sure where they are'..... of course they do.

And what happens if Israel have killed some of them?

Stomacharmeleon · 07/11/2023 21:38

I am repeating myself as I have just said on the other thread.... I would want proof of life for all of them. I don't get or believe the vague Hamas line of ' what aren't sure where they are'..... of course they do.

Efacsen · 07/11/2023 21:34

@Stomacharmeleon and @Ecdysiast this is the latest on the hostage negotiations

Biden urged Netanyahu to agree to three-day pause in fighting

Joe Biden urged Benjamin Netanyahu to agree to a three-day pause in fighting to allow progress in releasing some of the hostages held by Hamas, according to an Axios report, citing two US and Israel officials.

Citing the US official, Axios reported that under a proposal that is being discussed between the US, Israel and Qatar, Hamas would release 10-15 hostages. They would also use the three-day pause to verify the identities of all the hostages and deliver a list of names of the people it is holding, the official said.

During the call on Monday, Netanyahu told Biden that he does not trust Hamas’ intentions and doesn not believe they are ready to agree to a deal regarding the hostages, the two US and Israeli officials sai

Hamas | World news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/hamas

starfleet · 07/11/2023 21:24

EasterIssland · 07/11/2023 09:53

next time some of you say why aren’t they moving to the south , the south is safe … remember this

https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/status/1721823190551535791?t=dhAWd9mGa97T5hB-ogGwGw&s=19

The IDF footage shown on this link.

Palestinians are being forcibly removed. We know how thisnis going to end. How the fuck is the world standing by and watching this happen?

*The genocide supporters will be on to say this is not verified and ask for a source I'm sure and to reiterate that the Palestinian people deserve this. Don't bother. Thanks.

https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/status/1721823190551535791?s=19&t=dhAWd9mGa97T5hB-ogGwGw

Ecdysiast · 07/11/2023 21:19

Stomacharmeleon · 07/11/2023 21:01

@Ecdysiast I wonder where about's in all that the hostages are?

@Stomacharmeleon Good point, but I don't think Netanyahu cares - it's clear that saving the hostages is not his priority.

Stomacharmeleon · 07/11/2023 21:01

@Ecdysiast I wonder where about's in all that the hostages are?

Ecdysiast · 07/11/2023 20:49

EasterIssland · 07/11/2023 09:53

next time some of you say why aren’t they moving to the south , the south is safe … remember this

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Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?
ssd · 07/11/2023 18:55

I can't believe i was deleted but it confirms what i posted about.

feralunderclass · 07/11/2023 10:27

nomadicbelle · 06/11/2023 22:07

It's a loaded question. But to answer it in the most simplified way possible - it's mostly European countries that have unwavering support for Israel. This is because of their guilty conscience - they transported not only their own European Jews to the Middle East but they also transferred their guilt onto Palestinians. What guilt you ask? Their abhorrent treatment and massacre of Jews throughout history. That's why.

I think you are giving the Western government far too much credit here - assuming that they feel guilt to the extent they need to transfer it onto the murdering of other people. Historically, they don't give a toss (and I mean specifically UK here), they need to bolster Israel for diplomatic relations pure and simple.

EasterIssland · 07/11/2023 09:53

next time some of you say why aren’t they moving to the south , the south is safe … remember this

Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?
SinnerBoy · 07/11/2023 02:17

I don't think that Israel allowed it, or knew that it was coming. They have certainly taken advantage of it, as an excuse to smash Gaza and it looks as though they mean to annex more of it, going by Netanyahu's statement that Gaza will be smaller, when they've finished.

flufferknutter · 07/11/2023 00:41

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It certainly makes you wonder doesn't it?

ssd · 06/11/2023 23:38

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ssd · 06/11/2023 23:29

I don't think its guilty conscience at all. I think its to do with money and power. And who is friends with whom. I feel Gaza is in the crossfire.

nomadicbelle · 06/11/2023 22:07

Growlybear83 · 31/10/2023 18:25

More to the point, why is the world sitting back and allowing this to happen?

It's a loaded question. But to answer it in the most simplified way possible - it's mostly European countries that have unwavering support for Israel. This is because of their guilty conscience - they transported not only their own European Jews to the Middle East but they also transferred their guilt onto Palestinians. What guilt you ask? Their abhorrent treatment and massacre of Jews throughout history. That's why.

TakeMe2Insanity · 06/11/2023 18:09

FashinVogue · 06/11/2023 16:05

For reference, they have now surpassed the number of total killed in the Saudi-Yemeni war that has been going on for the best part of a decade. They have also massively surpassed the number of civilian deaths in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, one where we’re supposed to believe Russia was maximally targeting civilians with the second largest military force on Earth.

Sadly it’s easy to see how they’ve managed to do so, high density population in a small area, combined with the inability to move around. Just so wrong. I can’t believe the world continues to shut its eyes.

FashinVogue · 06/11/2023 16:05

For reference, they have now surpassed the number of total killed in the Saudi-Yemeni war that has been going on for the best part of a decade. They have also massively surpassed the number of civilian deaths in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, one where we’re supposed to believe Russia was maximally targeting civilians with the second largest military force on Earth.

OuiOuiKitty · 06/11/2023 15:55

feralunderclass · 06/11/2023 11:06

Just an infographic

The aggressiveness of this is insane. So, so much death and destruction in just one month. There isn't a shred of humanity in Israels dealing with this. I get that that are always going to be rogue, awful countries out there but the thing that gets to me the most in all of this is so many powerful countries not just standing by and watching but actively being Israels cheerleaders. It is chilling. Absolutely chilling what money and power does to people. I hope they are haunted by the images of the people they have helped to kill until they are on their deathbeds.

feralunderclass · 06/11/2023 11:06

Just an infographic

Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?
OuiOuiKitty · 06/11/2023 07:11

tobeornottobe1 · 05/11/2023 23:46

Why an earth would 100 Israeli doctors sign such an agreement? What was the narrative here? I mean in any case it would be wrong as it's a hospital for goodness sake but why?!? They are suppose to be medical professionals they are signing off their fellow medics lives firstly and secondly all them innocent children, women , civilians! Just barbaric.

It's worse than that, it's a 1000 Israeli Drs.

The UN has said that 88 UNRWA staff members have now been killed in Gaza since October 7, making the conflict the deadliest ever for UN fatalities. It's really shocking considering it has been a month. Israel are really sparing no one.