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Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?

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elephantblock · 31/10/2023 17:42

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Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 19:38

@eardefender

Where the hell are they supposed to go
I'm sure you are aware of how big gaza is compared to the population
Aswell as almost 40% of residential buildings have been destroyed
This isn't the only refugee camp that has been struck by Israel

Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?
Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?
Growlybear83 · 31/10/2023 19:38

eardefender · 31/10/2023 19:26

From Israel's POV they warned civilians to get out, the part of the camp they hit was being used as a military base. Hamas attack Israel, Israel go to war to eliminate hamas so they don't attack again. They hit targets. Hamas cover them with civilians. Hamas refuse to surrender and wont give back hostages.

It is so sad and awful but Israel is not breaking any laws here. You may not like or agree with the laws but Israel is not breaking any.

I actually really do blame Hamas for all of this. The rest of the blame lies in any policies that allowed hamas to become so embedded in Gaza that to root them out now means killing thousands of civilians.

What were the people in the refugee camp supposed to do? People were told to evacuate northern Gaza but they were bombed on the supposedly safe route to the south, and have then been bombed repeatedly in Khan Younis. Conditions in the south are so bad that some people are now moving back to Gaza City. How are countless thousands of people expected to evacuate the area when they have no food, water, or fuel? And where can they go to that will be safe?

Lonelycrab · 31/10/2023 19:37

So when Israel finally “gets” hamas, while committing a bit of ethnic cleansing stroke genocide on the way
to do that….

Does the problem then go away?

Whats the plan, Israeli govt supporters?

Reallifelurker · 31/10/2023 19:35

I just get so peeved coming on MN, and seeing people who used to chat about what's for dinner or jumper colours inciting genocide, that it riles me somewhat.

Everything that’s going on and that’s what annoys you? Perhaps we should all stop trying to comprehend politics and get back to cooking dinner Hmm

Lentilweaver · 31/10/2023 19:33

Because they can. And the US/UK are supporting them.

Desertrose2023 · 31/10/2023 19:31

eardefender · 31/10/2023 19:26

From Israel's POV they warned civilians to get out, the part of the camp they hit was being used as a military base. Hamas attack Israel, Israel go to war to eliminate hamas so they don't attack again. They hit targets. Hamas cover them with civilians. Hamas refuse to surrender and wont give back hostages.

It is so sad and awful but Israel is not breaking any laws here. You may not like or agree with the laws but Israel is not breaking any.

I actually really do blame Hamas for all of this. The rest of the blame lies in any policies that allowed hamas to become so embedded in Gaza that to root them out now means killing thousands of civilians.

kindly explain how the collective punishment of 2.3 million people isn’t breaking international humanitarian law.

specifically:

withholding water
withholding food
withholding fuel
cutting of internet / telecommunication

FOJN · 31/10/2023 19:31

Itisyourturntowashthebath No problem, sarcasm doesn't always translate well in the written word.

queenofarles · 31/10/2023 19:31

if IDF claim they know about the underground network , then why don’t they dig underground tunnels and get to Hamas?

Icefoot · 31/10/2023 19:30

Bigminnie1 · 31/10/2023 19:28

@Icefoot she said ALL Israelis hate anyone who isn't Jewish. That's why we are getting angry. I wouldn't say ALL Palestinians are bad because it's not true and it incites hatred and violence. So please give the same courtesy.

But killing all Palentinians is OK?

She was expressing an opinion, a feeling, felt by the people living it.

Lonelycrab · 31/10/2023 19:30

From Israel's POV

No one is concerned with Israel’s pov right now. We can see enough for ourselves.

lockedinflavour · 31/10/2023 19:29

@PurpleChrayne do you think that the horrific murders by Hamas terrorists on 7/10 justifies the horrific murder by the IDF of Gaza's babies and children? Are these babies Hamas too?

Icefoot · 31/10/2023 19:29

eardefender · 31/10/2023 19:26

From Israel's POV they warned civilians to get out, the part of the camp they hit was being used as a military base. Hamas attack Israel, Israel go to war to eliminate hamas so they don't attack again. They hit targets. Hamas cover them with civilians. Hamas refuse to surrender and wont give back hostages.

It is so sad and awful but Israel is not breaking any laws here. You may not like or agree with the laws but Israel is not breaking any.

I actually really do blame Hamas for all of this. The rest of the blame lies in any policies that allowed hamas to become so embedded in Gaza that to root them out now means killing thousands of civilians.

The people were living in a camp in a place where aid isn't being allowed as it was. Where were they supposed to go and how?

crumblingschools · 31/10/2023 19:29

@eardefender where are they meant to go? They are in a refugee camp

Bigminnie1 · 31/10/2023 19:28

@Icefoot she said ALL Israelis hate anyone who isn't Jewish. That's why we are getting angry. I wouldn't say ALL Palestinians are bad because it's not true and it incites hatred and violence. So please give the same courtesy.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 31/10/2023 19:28

@FOJN , sorry, realised I missed the point.
I just get so peeved coming on MN, and seeing people who used to chat about what's for dinner or jumper colours inciting genocide, that it riles me somewhat.

Netanyahu’s plea bargaining (to keep his corrupt arse out of prison) is making Genghis Khan look terribly reasonable.

eardefender · 31/10/2023 19:26

From Israel's POV they warned civilians to get out, the part of the camp they hit was being used as a military base. Hamas attack Israel, Israel go to war to eliminate hamas so they don't attack again. They hit targets. Hamas cover them with civilians. Hamas refuse to surrender and wont give back hostages.

It is so sad and awful but Israel is not breaking any laws here. You may not like or agree with the laws but Israel is not breaking any.

I actually really do blame Hamas for all of this. The rest of the blame lies in any policies that allowed hamas to become so embedded in Gaza that to root them out now means killing thousands of civilians.

Reallifelurker · 31/10/2023 19:26

Hamas want us dead. What are we supposed to do?

The rest of the Western world is next. Britain, America. Islamic Jihad/Hamas want us all dead

The threat of Jihad is not new. Remember 9/11?

If Israel actually gets rid of Hamas then fair play to them but I’m not sure what bombing refugee camps and hospitals is achieving?

Icefoot · 31/10/2023 19:25

Justifying what's going on in Gaza because of the action of Hamas is like flattening Ireland because of the IRA attacks. No one anywhere would have thought that was Ok.

Qantaqa · 31/10/2023 19:21

This whole thing is a shit show and as long as Israel have the support of the West it will get worse. Sadly I don't see the support going any time soon.

The othering of the Palestinian people is frankly terrifying and anyone justifying the deaths of the thousands of civilians as a casualty in the fight against Hamas should be taking a long hard look at themselves and not liking what they see.

Hamas are a terrorist organisation. Generally we expect terrorist organisations to behave like shit. Generally we try and take them out with minimal civilian casualties recognising that those civilians are not the terrorist organisation. None of that seems to apply here.

If Hamas were based in tunnels under Israel , Egypt or anywhere other than Palestine I would bet my house they wouldn't be bombing the shit out of it and going ahh well we told people to leave.

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 19:21

Sunak the useless idiot has sent his 'condolences' after today's strikes
As if his condolences will really help the injured and dead right now when he couldn't even vote for a ceasefire

Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?
queenofarles · 31/10/2023 19:20

Because Hamas are hiding within and under, using women and children as a buffer and they don’t care if they are killed
where are Hamas? I can’t see any , all I see are women and children, literally they pulled out a foetus from a dead mother live on tv. How is that about Hamas?

stop repeating everything the western propaganda are saying and think for yourself .
this clearly is not about HAMAS , this is Ethnic Cleaning ,
I hope one day All the members of this right winged government responsible for these crimes to stand trial in an ICC .

FOJN · 31/10/2023 19:19

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 31/10/2023 19:16

Genocide is never the real answer.

Look in the mirror and ask yourself, who that teeny weeny group of people who agree with you are.

I think you might have misunderstood my post.

FOJN · 31/10/2023 19:18

Bigminnie1 · 31/10/2023 19:12

@FOJN the poster I was quoting said ' as far as all Israelis are concerned'
Really? ALL Israelis hate Christians...

That's lies, utter generalisation and will incite hatred against the general Israeli population which then spreads to Jews in the diaspora.

Stick to facts ffs.

That's not a direct quote, is it?

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 19:17

PurpleChrayne · 31/10/2023 19:11

There's currently a massive wave of Anti-Semitism sweeping the western world. A pogrom was committed against Jews in Israel. We aren't going to sit back and take it.

Your double standards and hypocrisy is shocking

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