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Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?

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elephantblock · 31/10/2023 17:42

Dozens dead

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EasterIssland · 31/10/2023 20:57

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 20:51

@bellac11 it's a topic that most people don't actually want to talk about
Might be good to have a separate thread on it
The psychological impact on children in war

Around 90% of children visiting paediatric hospitals complain of anxiety. Many are suffering from anxiety, and it’s certainly something we haven’t seen in the past. The recognition is beginning to dawn that this issue will be much more prolonged than before,” Grossman said.
In Gaza, a child aged 15 has experienced five periods of intense bombardment in their life: 2008-9, 2012, 2014, 2021 and now 2023.
Studies conducted after earlier conflicts have shown a majority of children in Gaza exhibiting symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/22/children-in-gaza-developing-severe-trauma-after-16-days-of-bombing

Children in Gaza ‘developing severe trauma’ after 16 days of bombing | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian

As well as risk of death and injury, psychiatrist says situation is leading to symptoms such as convulsions and bed-wetting

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/22/children-in-gaza-developing-severe-trauma-after-16-days-of-bombing

PTSDBarbiegirl · 31/10/2023 20:56

Absolutely heart breaking. I am at a loss to understand any of this. Terrorism on one side and then genocide on the other. The destruction of innocent human beings is unforgivable and anyone supporting these actions is surely supporting terror tactics. Ceasefire and peace talks must be supported by international community and a solution that does not involve ethnic cleansing in the region. The UK had a hand in this mess over last 100 years so now need to work for peace.

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 20:56

bellac11 · 31/10/2023 20:52

Yes absolutely.

Ive worked with many child soldiers as part of my client group over the years, not from Palestine but other parts of the world and Ive said on many a thread that the circumstances are a fertile breeding ground for terrorism and fight.

There are no easy answers to this.

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Yes you are right
Again I don't have the answers for it either
But it's definitely something that needs to be taken into account when people talk about how many youth may be supporting Hamas
I can't find it now but I read somewhere that many of the Hamas soldiers are actually Orphans
Whose parents have been killed in previous wars with Israel and now justify their actions as revenge
Ofcourse I do not believe these actions are justified

Glarptip · 31/10/2023 20:53

War isn't nice, these days.

Don't start one.

bellac11 · 31/10/2023 20:52

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 20:49

@bellac11 you may find this article in the guardian interesting
It talks about the impact of war on children and focuses on Gaza
Here is a snippet

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/23/israel-palestine-children-onslaught-gaza-survivors-killed-traumatised

Yes absolutely.

Ive worked with many child soldiers as part of my client group over the years, not from Palestine but other parts of the world and Ive said on many a thread that the circumstances are a fertile breeding ground for terrorism and fight.

There are no easy answers to this.

flufferknutter · 31/10/2023 20:52

LindyLou2020 · 31/10/2023 20:47

What do you think the world should do?

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Stop giving Israel money and arms (US). The out of control toddler has grown up and is an out of control adult now. What do you tell the parents? Stop bankrolling them?

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 20:51

@bellac11 it's a topic that most people don't actually want to talk about
Might be good to have a separate thread on it
The psychological impact on children in war

Growlybear83 · 31/10/2023 20:50

I think israel should be told to stop their genocide, withdraw from Gaza immediately, and abide by the many UN resolutions that they have ignored for years.

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 20:49

@bellac11 you may find this article in the guardian interesting
It talks about the impact of war on children and focuses on Gaza
Here is a snippet

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/23/israel-palestine-children-onslaught-gaza-survivors-killed-traumatised

Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?
grayhairdontcare · 31/10/2023 20:48

It's a massive shit show!
To bomb refugees is disgusting
To use refugees as human shields disgusting
It's not going to get any better any time soon.

SeeReality · 31/10/2023 20:48

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LindyLou2020 · 31/10/2023 20:47

Growlybear83 · 31/10/2023 18:25

More to the point, why is the world sitting back and allowing this to happen?

What do you think the world should do?

flufferknutter · 31/10/2023 20:47

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 20:43

This is from the EU commissioner for crisis management

But who enforces the rules? 🤔

Netanyahu's obviously lost the plot. They have nuclear weapons though. I know another guy just like him in Russia 🫣

What the hell is going wrong with this decade?

ssd · 31/10/2023 20:46

user701 · 31/10/2023 17:54

I have jewish ancestry but in supporting the Israeli practices the UK is on the wrong side of history here

Thank you. The wrong side of history is spot on.

flufferknutter · 31/10/2023 20:44

bellac11 · 31/10/2023 20:37

Why is there the need to be so aggressive to me

I have not said, and I dont believe its a brilliant plan

I merely pointed out the flawed assumption that 'women and children' are completely separate to Hamas

I suggest if you're not able to engage in reasonable discourse without putting words and intent in peoples mouths and being hostile, then leave the thread.

The vast majority of posters are able to have discussion without being rude and trying to start angry arguments out of nothing. Try it.

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Um, we're witnessing genocide. People get upset. It's a normal human reaction to seeing others, including little kids, being slaughtered.

I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone.

Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 20:43

This is from the EU commissioner for crisis management

Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?
Parkingt111 · 31/10/2023 20:42

As many of us have said here
Even wars have rules

cakeorwine · 31/10/2023 20:42

I think that using your military to bomb refugee camps because you are targetting a commander is a guaranteed way to create future enemies and make your country even more of a target than it already is.

bellac11 · 31/10/2023 20:37

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Why is there the need to be so aggressive to me

I have not said, and I dont believe its a brilliant plan

I merely pointed out the flawed assumption that 'women and children' are completely separate to Hamas

I suggest if you're not able to engage in reasonable discourse without putting words and intent in peoples mouths and being hostile, then leave the thread.

The vast majority of posters are able to have discussion without being rude and trying to start angry arguments out of nothing. Try it.

Desertrose2023 · 31/10/2023 20:33

bellac11 · 31/10/2023 20:23

Dont try and start an argument with me to try to get arsey

Clearly not, it goes without saying Im obviously not talking about tiny children or babies so your point is moot.

Children as young as pre teen are often used and often have developed beliefs which will lead them to get involved.

Do you think someone just gets to 18 and suddenly decides to go down to the Hamas recruiting office out of the blue?

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Got it, so babies and tiny children not Hamas. 11/12/13 years are pre-Hamas groomed therefore legitimate to blow them up.

is that the right genocide math ?

ChaoticCrumble · 31/10/2023 20:33

I just imagine, how would I feel if I was a child in gaza? What would I grow up thinking? (About Israel, not about jewish people).

What would I think about the world that didn't condemn or stop it?

FOJN · 31/10/2023 20:32

flufferknutter · 31/10/2023 20:15

And don't forget the women, who apparently have no power, autonomy or say in their lives if they live under Islamic rule - according to the islamophobic genocide apologists that is.

C'mon, which is it then? Helpless subjugated women or evil female Hamas members who have trained their toddlers to kill Israeli forces by throwing grenades wrapped in nappies? 🙄 ffs

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And let's not forget that Israel is the only democracy in the region but the Palestinians deserve their fate because they democratically elected Hamas.

Which is it?

It's almost like the people blaming Palestinians for voting for Hamas know there haven't been elections for years and that Hamas took power by force after a civil war in which they murdered members of Fatah.

SeeReality · 31/10/2023 20:30

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bellac11 · 31/10/2023 20:27

Israel wont even let UN officials into the country now, refusing visas to them