Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?

@Alohapotato this is from BBC verify by the way
Israel have shown absolutely no regard for civilians
They have made it clear that the end justifies the means no matter how many must die

@2boys1princess Hamas absolutely are in the west bank. They are a global operation, they are involved in a quite a few activities.

Just because they 'can' but have not wiped Gaza off the face of the earth does not mean that they care about the innocent gazan civilians
they continue to bomb indiscriminately including areas in the south which were 'Israeli designated safe zones' the same places they told the civilians to move to for their own safety

In underground tunnels (or at least that's the argument) which probably aren't being harmed by the bombing....

I said it up thread but don't Israel have the best special forces in the world? Aren't there better ways than obliterating a civilian population, to remove terrorists hiding in tunnels underneath them?

under siege and occupied? 20,000 people had permits to work in Israel. Garzans were treated in hospitals for free in Israel. Israel supplied water and electricity purely for humanitarian reasons. Sounds like despite everything there was some cooperation going on there.

But perhaps Israel was naive because look at what happened when the wall was breached?

Are Israelis now thinking they were right to build the wall and now right to keep it closed forever. Its a shame that any prior cooperations are now gone. Thats on Hamas

Prior to recent events, Gaza is not occupied in the same way that downtown Leningrad was not occupied by Hitlers armies.
Gaza been under seige since 2007.

Israel have the infrastructure to kill all the Gazans if they want to, they don't do it because it's nor their goal, they don't target civilians but hamas hide among civilians .

So you admit that Palestines in the West Bank are also subjected to horrific conditions and abuse despite there being no Hamas there? So basically as far as Israel is concerned, being a Palestinian is a crime and must be punished? Hamas or no Hamas.

As for you fighting for the world and saving us from Hamas. Please don’t. Not in my name. Or the millions of people around the world protesting, who have woken up to what is really happening out there. We don’t want the blood of innocents in our hand. You can keep it.

Quite!

Bassem Youssef said it best in Piers Morgan’s show:

“It’s like being in a relationship with a narcissistic psychopath - he fucks you up and then tells you it’s your fault!”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IGOqsbd7k6Q

I see this more in the context of military occupation of Palestine and the Apartheid policies there.
Support a 2 state solution, turn away from Hamas extremists and Netanyahus gang of far right wing Ultras. Moderate palestinian partners for peace wait in the wings to make steps towards a solution. Would Netanyahu engage with them over the years-No.

The UN and many human rights organisations continue to consider Gaza as occupied by Israel due to the blockade it has enforced

I don't know why people ask silly questions like this. Hamas are a proscribed terrorist organization. Their aim is to invoke terror. State members are supposed to act civilly and adhere to international law. The real question should be is why has a State member killed almost eight times the victims of the proscribed terrorist group? And that is not counting the deaths of the decades before.

@daytriptovulcan Not sure how Hamas can end this disaster. Wouldnt Palestine still be illegally and militarilly occupied if all Hamas agreed to go into Israeli custody

What do you mean by Palestine? Gaza is not occupied. Israeli's left in 2005. The west bank is a mixed area with some under control of the PA and some under Israeli control. Some land bitterly contested from what i understand.

BBC have put out some pictures of the aftermath and these are the ones that they said are not too graphic
It's devastating

The IDF do indeed always claim not to target civilians.
The Russian army makes the same claims in Ukraine whilst bombing maternity hospitals, schools, markets etc.
Its just words really.
Both of these militaries have no regard for civilians.

You will find that many people did
The war in Iraq saw some of the biggest demonstrations and protests ever recorder globally

@2boys1princess
ohh goddd
you just don't have a clew!
where is the knowledge coming from ?
where are you coming from sir.
what do you know about our reality ? haa?

what do you think?
that in the west bank wan't to leave in peace?
what USA did after 9/11?
they get into iraq and destroy el qida
no one tell them to stop
no one tell them" this is not propotinoal"

we are fighting for the world!!!
Hamas movement and jihad movment is everywere
wake up!!!!
what do you think
that they will love you ?
and wants to leave a longside you!

yes
innocent pepole who's killed
this is really horrible both side!
if somebody have another idea!
how I can leave here in israel
when hamas across the border!!! please give me a call!

Yes, there are dozens of Pakistani and other Islamic terror outfits calling for India and Hindus to be eliminated from the world, so they can establish a Caliphate. Thousands have been killed by Islamic terrorists in India, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, and across Asia. And in the UK, for that matter. That does not mean Muslims worldwide deserve to be massacred in retaliation.

Hamas is not Palestine.

No, it hasn’t been confirmed.

Channel 4 carried out an independent investigation which showed that the Israeli “evidence” was completely falsified and made up.

You can watch from 3 minutes in:
https://www.channel4.com/news/who-was-behind-the-gaza-hospital-blast-visual-investigation

Likewise, all BBC experts stressed that although they can speculate from photos, it is exactly that; speculation. They’d need to go in to Gaza to investigate in person, which Israel has blocked - go figure.

The US has also refused to do an investigation into the bombing, you can watch the video here of them refusing:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IGOqsbd7k6Q

So if all Israeli “evidence” is laughably made-up, and both Israel and the US have blocked an on-site independent investigation, you can see how it looks…

Not sure how Hamas can end this disaster. Wouldnt Palestine still be illegally and militarilly occupied if all Hamas agreed to go into Israeli custody?

It was a surgical doctor working at the hospital said they had 400 casualties come in from which 120 were dead
I'm sure you have seen pictures of the aftermath of the blast including the two large craters
And given the number of people living there why would you assume the doctor is lying?

Sorry that was @IstandWithIsrael

I dont think its been proven to be a missile from Gaza which hit the hospital. The IDFs version of events are still disputed, or so it seems.

@Lentilweaver
first bro, I'm very sad to hear it.I really am.
IDF do everything that they can for not hurting this peploe
also,
correct me if I wrong.
there is any pakisatnic organization who's calling for india to be just gone from the world?

What would I do?
I wouldn’t kill more than 8000 in retaliation and continue to kill. Remember the ones dying aren’t the ones that started the war. Most are children. None of the dying have weapons to protect themselves.
you think freeing the people of Palestine from from Hamas is the answer? It isn’t. The Palestinians in the West Bank are free from Hamas. There’s no Hamas there, yet they are still subjected to the same violence by Israelis.
The world now can see that Hamas is just an excuse to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians.
who actually believes that if Hamas were to be eliminated, the Palestinian people will have the same rights as the Israeli Jews? Nah. That won’t happen.