"But Israel gave them prime waterfront land!". A life in Gaza thread.

It is also a war crime to deliberately use civilians as cover.

Targeted?

Firstly, how targeted are they when thousands of children are dead?

Secondly, how are they targeted when Israel's world beating intelligence systems failed entirely to get a sniff of October 7th? But now they know exactly who is where? It makes no sense, and if it makes no sense, it isn't true. One of those things is a lie. Possibly both.

they are when actions are not taken to minimise risk to innocent civilians.

@starfleet thank you for explaining. I have apologised to @Horrificallyuntidy above and I am sorry for the misunderstanding. It is all making me so sad and upset and also I think I am spending too much time arguing with people who will persistently deny or minimise the horrific things going on.

Targeted attacks to remove Hamas are not war crimes.

@Horrificallyuntidy Many apologies I misunderstood your sarcasm there. I deleted my account in frustration so have just started a new one to reply. I am just so sad at how people minimise and justify the civilian deaths and warcrimes from minute to minute.

Did you read the article you posted? It's damning of Gaza and Hamas, and rather wishy-washy on Israel, as Israel hasn't ratified the treaty. Iran is now effectively calling for all Muslim nations (and by extension all Muslims, as they do believe they are all brothers) to enact collective punishment on Israelis by denying them food and fuel - they are all as bad as each other but I have to say that nearly 2bn against fewer than 2m does seem a little unbalanced.

Don't forget, when calling for a ceasefire - if Hamas adheres to a ceasefire, nobody dies. If Israel adheres to a ceasefire, Jews die. There was a ceasefire in operation until 7 October.

@gratedbluecheese I think - correct me if I'm wrong @Horrificallyuntidy that was a sarcastic (for want of a better word) comment directed to the poster who seems to need justification for the war crimes Israel is committing??

I’m relieved really. Maybe it should have been obvious but some of these things I’ve read recently it wouldn’t surprised me if it had been a genuine sentiment.
Sorry again

@gratedbluecheese I think - correct me if I'm wrong @Horrificallyuntidy that was a sarcastic (for want of a better word) comment directed to the poster who seems to need justification for the war crimes Israel is committing??

It really wasn't. Sorry!

Fuck me. Again. I was commenting on Hippys posts and attitude

Ah well that wasn’t clear, sorry

Palestinian children getting murdered is sad but why didn't their parents stop them

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Me also- the Hamas attack was a war crime. Or a day of war crimes.
Israel is now within 6 days of a month of war crimes.

All the Palestinians have to do is to stop attacking Israel and this will happen

The Palestinians aren’t attacking Israel Hamas are. If the Palestinians hadn’t been thrown into limbo maybe Hamas wouldn’t have got a foot hold.

@MrsTerryPratchett yep, it's right there isn't it.

Palestinian children getting murdered is sad but...

This is chilling. To be so lacking in empathy for murdered children. I'm speechless.

It is still being looked into, although the other 35 Israeli strikes on medical centres are not in dispute. Other intelligence agencies have disputed r misfired rocket theory. It is a good and reliable act to exclude those deaths from the count until it has been full investigated- which is impossible to do now due to the continuous bombardment and now ground incursions.

Your comment and your disgusting hypocrisy would be funny if it wasn't so horribly cruel and lacking in conscience.

The self-defence justification isn’t a because I said so justification. It has to withstand international legal scrutiny, and according to UNWRA, UNHCR, UNSC, and UNSG along with many other NGOs on human rights such as Amnesty International and HRW including a few in Israel, the claim to self-defence is weaker than a newborn in an incubator.

Yes I do condemn war crimes but the commitment of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority to the destruction of Israel and the murder of all Jews means that Israel can justify to itself this sort of horrible destruction in the name of self defence.
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Yes I do condemn Hamas but the commitment of the Israel government to the acquisition of Palestinian lands and ethnic cleansing means Hamas can take control of the resulting unstable regions and cause all sorts of horrible destruction in the name of jihad.

@usernamealreadytaken so you condemn the Israeli govts war crimes against Palestinians as documented here and by United Nations, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty and more?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/have-war-crimes-been-committed-in-israel-and-gaza-and-what-international-laws-apply