A (hypothetical) March for Peace. Would you join?

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ToWhitToWhoo · Today 15:13

There are still voices for peace, despite the horrors.

www.allmep.org

www.oasisofpeace.org.uk

Tomorrow's Women - Leadership organization for young Palestinian and Israeli women (tomorrowswomen.org)

onevoicemovement.org.uk

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Maireas · 22/10/2023 1:00

https://www.womenwagepeace.org.il/en/
There is this women's movement for peace, a grassroots Israeli organisation, but inclusive and reaching out to a sister group in Palestine, the Women of the Sun. A tiny light in a dark sky.

I would join OP, I think it’s a great idea for people of all faiths ( and no faith) to march together for peace. Yes it won’t stop the current massacre, it would probably
not even be reported but it will bring people together. It’s the constant them and us that feeds hate.

Yes I would march.

For those asking what good we can do here, you may as well ask the many people marching at the moment.

There are people feeling marginalised and scared in all communities in our own countries right now, we may not change the middle east but we can work for peace here.

I would. Everyone can say it's naive and wouldn't 'achieve anything' - well, same goes for every other bloody reaction to this situation. Sometimes just saying what you think publicly is all you can do, and through doing that you meet others who think the same, build networks and ideas, and might slightly shift things in the direction of your values even if it's at some distant point in the future and not obvious straight away how that can happen. Also it shows people here who are affected that not everyone is cheering on the violence and polarisation.

I recently joined 'Women in Black' which has vigils in various cities and might provide a bit of what you're looking for. There are peace activists out there, including many of the veterans (is that word appropriate?!) of the Greenham Common days. The recent events and the reactions to them over here have made me much more appreciative of the importance of a pacifist and feminist approach. I guess I was previously one of the people who would have dismissed it as naive, but by a process of elimination I think it's the best stance we've got!

There would need to be a neutral slogan of some kind to stop this happening - I’m not clever enough to think what that could be though.

absolutely not, just imagining how it will be hijacked by some fat, rich, horrible hamas leadership cunt, sitting in qatar and proclaiming their terrorist fight is working

Women collectively could do something. Yes it would only be a gesture but sometimes it is important to engage in futile but symbolic gestures

No, because it would probably be hijacked by trouble-makers.

I would join. I wouldn’t kid myself that it would make any difference on the ground but at least it might send a message to our own political leaders. What they’d do about that message is another issue!

I actually looked for this type of march during the week but all the ones I found were aligned with one side or the other, I wanted something that just says STOP.

It makes no difference sadly

SharonEllis · Today 12:56

How would a peace march in Britain secure a separate homeland for Palestine and achieve security for Israel? Can you explain the mechanism by which it would achieve these aims?

I would also like to know the answer to this.

You're not sure the Gazans are in a position to organise maeches right now? How about before October 7th? Have you done any research at all on how Hamas rules Gaza? Have you been seeing how Iran (Hamas's key backers) treats peaceful demonstrators? What an incredibly naive & self indulgent post.

I'm definitely in favour of peace but I'm doubtful we'd get it. Governments don't tend to listen. Also Israel has gone so far against Gaza that there'll be nothing left before it could be organised.

I remember when 1 million plus people marched to stop Blair’s wars, makes no difference to anything I am afraid

No, I think it’s an honourable wish but all it would be in reality is a parade of virtue signalling.

No.

I went on all the Stop the War marches and various others (including for Palestine) years ago. I enjoyed them and it was nice to know that so many people shared my viewpoint but I don't think any of it changed anything.

(Also, I stopped going along when the police started kettling people because I'm autistic and couldn't cope with that.)

No way. Maybe pre 2000, but after decades of terrorism in our own peaceful countries i won't march for anything that gives weight to a terrorist perspective

Yes, though I worry that it would be hijacked by shouty morons.

I want several thousand people standing outside Parliament with signs like this basically -

PEACE NOW
שלום עכשיו
السلام الآن
мир сейчас
спокій зараз

(apologies if you're a fluent Arabic or UA speaker and I've just written a restaurant menu, doing my best here)

No. I'm a westerner. It's not my job to call for peace if others have conflicts to settle

Call me a cynical old bastard but I don't think marching about the UK will help the people of Palestine one iota. It would never be broadcast by Hamas or Israel.

The people of Palestine are being told there were no civilian casualties in Israel and seemingly think Hamas is a democratic organisation.

I've marched for various things over 40 years. It makes you feel better but achieved fuck all.

World peace would only happen if people refused to bear arms. Unfortunately there are too many traumatised young men, radicalised through previous conflict, motivated to kill.

If boys and men refused to bear arms, war would stop.

No I wouldn’t march. It would solve nothing and cost the taxpayer money for all the policing.

Of course.