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Conflict in the Middle East

To think Israel won't exist much longer?

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sergeantsalt · 28/10/2023 07:56

Support in the west is declining, and when Israel doesn't have weapons and defense funding they won't be able to defend against their neighbouring countries on their own. AIBU to wonder how much longer it can exist given they are losing support?

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Everythingnotsavedwillbelost73 · 28/10/2023 09:17

Don't assume that purple haired people with Palestine flags in their twitter bios represent the majority of public opinion
Or that they have the slightest clue about global history/politics aside from what they've gleaned from TikTok over the last 3 weeks.

And Utter Patronising bollocks.

Everythingnotsavedwillbelost73 · 28/10/2023 09:16

There’s a few people on this thread that don’t understand the difference between anti semitism and anti zionism.

LaDerniereVacheFolle · 28/10/2023 09:15

TheThingIsYeah · 28/10/2023 08:04

Don't assume that purple haired people with Palestine flags in their twitter bios represent the majority of public opinion.

👍🏻. Or that they have the slightest clue about global history/politics aside from what they've gleaned from TikTok over the last 3 weeks.

TintinHadToBeMale · 28/10/2023 09:11

A concerning op while attacks on Jews in Britain are apparently on the rise. Many people were, I think, more sympathetic to Palestine before they launched their massacre.

Noicant · 28/10/2023 09:11

I don’t think there will be no Palestinians in Gaza either. I think Gaza will suffer from horrific destruction until israel feels that Hamas and it’s infrastructure is destroyed and then they will create a DMZ between Gaza and Israel and leave them to their own devices. No healthcare aid, no electricity and no water.

At which point the international community will step in to provide aid and re-build.

eardefender · 28/10/2023 09:10

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Wow anti Semitic and thick

AluckyEllie · 28/10/2023 09:08

Its the US only ally in an area of the world they distrust so I think they will support it for a long time.

FromEden · 28/10/2023 09:08

I mean after Biden. This next generation is very anti Israel. Many US reps are anti Israel. One covered Israel on her office map with a Palestine sticker and wore a shirt with Israel covered in Palestinian flags. Once that is the majority opinion how can it survive?

It's not the majority opinion. Those US reps will be voted out. Hate to break it you but, the "majority opinion" doesn't support children being slaughtered and burnt alive in their own homes. The next generation will grow up and see sense, like we all did

topnoddy · 28/10/2023 09:05

So Israel are seeming being given carte blanche to virtually wipe out The Gaza Strip and we just say get on with it , do you need anymore bombs or rockets ? We can do you a good deal .

That doesn't sit well with me i'm afraid

sergeantsalt · 28/10/2023 09:02

NmeChngeFail · 28/10/2023 08:38

Biden has long stated that America would have created an Israel if there wasn't one. So he will never let it cease to exist.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2020-12-28/ty-article/rare-1986-document-reveals-bidens-views-on-israel-and-saudi-arabia/0000017f-f2ca-d8a1-a5ff-f2ca769b0000

I mean after Biden. This next generation is very anti Israel. Many US reps are anti Israel. One covered Israel on her office map with a Palestine sticker and wore a shirt with Israel covered in Palestinian flags. Once that is the majority opinion how can it survive?

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FromEden · 28/10/2023 08:59

YABU. The only Jewish state in the world has a right to exist and will continue to. But weird how you think it is or should be in jeopardy?

grayhairdontcare · 28/10/2023 08:58

@TwilightSkies you seriously have not seen any pictures or videos of the Hammas attacks? Wow!

FloweryName · 28/10/2023 08:58

Unfortunately they seem to have the full support of some of the richest governments in the world no matter how disgusting their actions are so I can’t see Israel being stopped any time soon.

They have no idea what they look like to the rest of the world.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 28/10/2023 08:55

Also, where are all the videos of Israeli’s being attacked/bombed? I haven’t seen a single one.

In literally every mainstream newspaper every day. There was something in the Times this morning, as a starter for ten. I have parents in tlv and wider family in a suburb an hour away - would you like one of their phone numbers so they can tell you how many times they and their kids decamped to a safe room or bomb shelter last night? Because Hamas is still firing rockets over.

saffronsoup · 28/10/2023 08:42

Charles11 · 28/10/2023 08:32

It's looking more and more like there won't be any Palestinians anymore.

The majority of Palestinians do not live in Gaza so they will still exist in name where they can use the name safely. Without a state, their dispersement will solely lead to their extinction and will be a heritage but not a nationality. There are over 3 million Palestinians in the West Bank (not under Hamas control but still a major point of conflict), 3 million in Jordan, over half a million in each of Syria, Chile, Saudi Arabia, over a quarter million in each of Qatar, USA, UAE, and Lebanon and about 2.5 million in Israel (although as mentioned earlier they can not call themselves Palestinians there but rather are identified as Israeli Arabs).

I would imagine taking back the remaining settlements in the West Bank will be Isreal's next goal once Gaza is gone.

SomeCatFromJapan · 28/10/2023 08:41

Also, where are all the videos of Israeli’s being attacked/bombed? I haven’t seen a single one.

Did the events of October 7 pass you by?

Also Hamas are constantly firing rockets at Israel at present. Israel has better defence systems.

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 28/10/2023 08:41

The destruction of Israel is the wet dream of antisemites everywhere. It’s not going to happen however much some might wish for it.

Zzizzisnotzeproblem · 28/10/2023 08:40

Israel have shown everyone exactly who they are.

sleepyscientist · 28/10/2023 08:39

It's Gaza that isn't going to exist, this has been on the cards since Hamas took control unfortunately. Long term maybe a West Bank administered by a neutral party like the west can co-exist but to me it's years in the future.

Ididivfama · 28/10/2023 08:39

I disagree. The USA is a very big support. Most of the western governments support it.
Gaza will be gone soon.

Ylvamoon · 28/10/2023 08:39

Sarahconnor1 · 28/10/2023 08:33

The US and the UK are abstaining or blocking cease-fires

The UK abstained because the draft resolution didn't include condemnation of the Hamas attack. Lots of other countries abstained for the same reason

... and meanwhile a humanitarian crisis on unimaginable scale is unfolding.

NmeChngeFail · 28/10/2023 08:38

Biden has long stated that America would have created an Israel if there wasn't one. So he will never let it cease to exist.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2020-12-28/ty-article/rare-1986-document-reveals-bidens-views-on-israel-and-saudi-arabia/0000017f-f2ca-d8a1-a5ff-f2ca769b0000

TwilightSkies · 28/10/2023 08:38

If Israel didn’t exist how would the defence industry rip off the American taxpayer to extent that it does. Conflict is needed for that industry to flourish.

Exactly!

Also, where are all the videos of Israeli’s being attacked/bombed? I haven’t seen a single one.

saffronsoup · 28/10/2023 08:36

Israeli-Arab is a pretty offensive term to many. It is what was used back in '48 when any mention or sign of Palestine or being Palestinian was illegal with harsh punishments. The term was used as it shows who really owns and controls them (Israel) and strips Palestinians of their ethnonationality. While a minority of Palestinians use it in Israel for their own safety (it is safer to denounce your Palestinian heritage in order to be accepted and safe in Israel), the vast majority (60%+) find it very offensive.

Tangled123 · 28/10/2023 08:35

The conflict won’t end until Israel have wiped out Palestine completely. It doesn’t matter what Hamas want, they are hugely outmatched and it’s Israel who have the support and resources to keep going. I would also be very surprised if all the people who left the last few weeks will go back.