To think Israel won't exist much longer?

You sound like a pro Palestine and pro Hamas person OP. Israel has got support from US, UK, India and many other countries. If they get attacked from other countries, they will have support from some of the biggest armies. It's most likely Gaza and Palestine are not going to exist soon.

Israel and Gaza are at war, sadly for Gazans their leaders have no compulsion at all about civilian deaths, but unless all the neighbouring counties ally with Hamas, then Israel isn't going to be obliterated. As Egypt won't even open its border with Gaza to let refugees out, I don't think it's likely that they'll join Hamas in a war with Israel.

But perhaps this will lead to a resolution where Palestinian leadership will accept a 2 state solution, the only way I can see out of this mess.

@FromEden I thought I had, but I see you are right and that it was said by @Fleetingmoments an hour ago. I apologise.

@Hellostrawberries I'm on the app only so can't see voting. What does the voting say?

I'd ignore the first couple of posts. In the last few years, there seems to have been a fight for who can respond first with a cutting post. Somebody started a thread about it once and it's so true! I can't unsee it now!

Clearly people care about this matter. I know many people can't even watch the news because of it. In my circles support for Israel is waning. Question Time seemed reflective of that, as have other shows in the media.

It's awful what happened to the innocent civilians of Israel however, we are watching the obliteration of an entire civilization. I don't think people will stand by much longer but it's hard to tell. It seems like a land grab to me and of course with the support of powerful countries, it seems hopeless.

I'm not deeply religious but I do often think "but for the grace of God" as to where I was born.

I'm not surprised at its existence, given a large majority of mn posters support Labour. The Labour, party, who is antisemitic.

And yet people keep telling me Islam is a religion on peace?

How can you bring up children to want to wipe another group of people from the face of the earth

really ? So please name the country that killed 7000 Palestinians in less than 3 weeks,
and The country responsible for the deaths of 2 million Iraqis , and what about the countries the killed 60million in ww2 and 17 million in WW1?
I will tell you this ,
Not one of them was an Arab country, neither were they Muslim.

I know many Jewish people and they are certainly nothing like that monster Netanyahu ,

amd I think if this current Israeli government effs off, the world would be a more peaceful place.

Not deleted yet so here is where the "greedy hands" phrase was used by a poster who very much is not me.

Israel is not losing American support - and that's all that matters.

Demonstrations by ordinary people around the world won't make much difference unfortunately.

No matter the awful provocation by Hamas the pulverising of the Palestinians is sickening to watch.

It's Gaza that soon won't exist.

If you think Israel will cease to exist, you haven't read your history. They have fought for their very existence, brutally attacked by their neighbours non stop since they began as a people group and as a recognised nation. If the Holocaust didn't succeed, Hamas won't either.

If you want Israel to cease to exist then you've drunk the Hamas kool aid.

The only thing I wish would cease to exist is this really unpleasant thread.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/decolonization-narrative-dangerous-and-false/675799/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=true-anthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Yes, it's all as simple as you say, isn't it? How nice and neatly you have compartmentalised the history.

@marmaladeandpeanutbutter

Excuse me? I quoted @Fleetingmoments . I certainly did not use that phrase in relation to Jewish people. Maybe read back through the thread? I copied and pasted what they wrote. Perhaps it's been deleted

I have lost sympathy for Israel, I think their actions are abhorrent. What HAMAS did was pure evil but those children being killed in Gaza are not HAMAS fighters.

Ignorance is bliss. Try looking at the plentiful video footage from October 7th.

whats your analysis ?

The security forces in Israel seem to know where all the Hamas bases and tunnels are … yet didn’t know about the massive planned attack.

i don’t think they know where the Hamas bases are, I just think they are blanket bombing areas hoping to get lucky …with innocent people being treated as collateral.

It wrong to do that - if you have proper intelligence you can target attacks, but this mass boming is bordering on “war crime” territory

I agree that talking about Jewish people "with greedy hands" is antisemitic and racist. Not on at all. That should be deleted.

I think you’ve confused me with someone else

Apologies, that was in reply to @Fleetingmoments. Guess I accidentally quoted you, sorry

There are still 200 hostages being held in Gaza, several of them British. The Israelis have asked for the area to be cleared so they can rescue these people, who have done nothing at all wrong. As PP have commented, you don’t seem to think that the DRC or CHina or Burma should be eliminated for attacking minorities but you think Israel should disappear for trying to protect and rescue its own and respond to a massacre as brutal as 9/11.

why do you think you hold that belief? Do Jewish people matter less? Or do their behaviour require harsher treatment than the massacres we see in Yemen, Syria, China etc etc?

try thinking it through like a big girl.