To think Israel won't exist much longer?

Armenians in Nagorny Karabakh, just a few weeks ago.

That's more complicated that many people realise. The Azeris are also using starvation as a tactic.

But... the haven't told the Armenians to leave, they've offered them Azeri citizenship. Nagorno Karabakh is not and never has been part of Armenia. There was a significant Armenian minority and, with Russian support, they annexed it and drove the Azeris out.

God, perhaps are shite, aren't they?

The thing is though the bombs are not going to make this support go away, the opposite.

The irony.

Yeah it's really disgusting and pathetic when no one cares about Palestinian lives. I am glad the world is waking up to Israeli atrocities.

All of those incidents are perfectly acceptable to some, who say anybody supporting Israel is sick.

My grandfather fought against both the arabs and the British in Palestine in the 1930s. The conflict had been going on for decades even at that point. GF was shot and killed in 1947.

I do. But blaming Hamas for the atrocities currently being visited upon innocent Palestinian women and children by the Israeli government does not wash with me.

you mean like the 40 fake babies being "beheaded"?

It's so sad, but so unsurprising, that some people have latched onto that one piece of data. Does it really matter if the number of babies murdered, or the nature of their death, was misreported? It's pathetic that some people would use that to try and minimise the entirety of the brutal slaughter of over 1000 innocent human beings.

I agree, and few are willing to confront this reality. On the streets on the uk there have been people denying Hamas took hostages, ripping down posters, vandalism of Jewish schools.
I saw posts from a journalist who attended a pro Palestine March in Birmingham. He asked a woman about her sign and she stated Hamas were right to attack Israel and then refused to talk further. He spoke to other people that were of the view that Hamas did not commit any murders and just bulldozed the fence. That for me, is supporting Hamas I’m afraid.

on bbc they attended a march in Bradford and a man was asked about whether the Hamas attacks were justified. He refused to comment.

itv interviewed that lady about Islamophobia, and then had to apologise after videos of her smiling and gleeful about the October 7 attacks were found. She had also been on Iranian tv.

elsewhere a March in Australia had protestors yelling ‘gas the Jews’. In nyc a protest had a person holding up a swastika on a phone and others mocking dead Israelis.

I don’t get why there’s such denial. There are horrible terrorist supporting people out there. Whether it’s because they’ve been radicalised or are just ill informed I don’t know. But there are out there and I’m not sure it’s just the odd individual anymore.

No, I mean videos of rocket attacks in Israel this week. Just like I said. I have on purpose not posted any of the sickening photos or videos on Mumsnet. It feels disrespectful to the victims to show them. The videos I'd post are ones of the iron dome in action so you can see how many rockets are being fired and one of a house being hit but everyone narrowly surviving. Just to show it's happening

I've reported that sick Post.

These horrific crimes are exactly the same as those committed against Palestinian refugees in Lebanon 40 years ago. The criminal, murdering terrorists on that occasion were Israeli-backed militia. The words used to describe the murder of the woman and her unborn baby at the time were almost identical.

Out of curiosity, are you going to put up the names and faces of the Gaza government who have so signally failed to protect their innocent children?

Have left them without bomb shelters, have concentrated on offensive rather than defensive arms, have sited their rocket launchers near schools? Have sent in their soldiers with orders to kill old people and babies in the certain knowledge that this will infuriate their much better armed neighbours?

Is the Gazan government begging Egypt to at least take the children in as refugees? Or are they leaving these kids in Gaza to be blown apart - because if enough of them die, it might force a ceasefire?

What Gazan kids really deserve is a better government. If you care for the Palestinians, that’s what you need to be working towards.

Israel needs to be divided into 3 states. Political nightmare for Israel because the minute it happens Palestine will get all of the support and money from it’s neighbouring countries and Israel will need to rely even more on the USA.

No one is surely doubting that Hamas are still firing rockets? One got through the iron curtain and hit an apartment block in Tel Aviv yesterday. Anyone denying Hamas is not still attacking is not following the conflict and misinformed.

And this illustrates my point perfectly well.

You actually typed that. Disgusting. Try reading some of the comments from those having to examine the dead bodies. Then again, they have feelings.

When will Israel not have weapons?Strange post. Support for Israel is not declining. The West are not calling for ceasefire and still support Israel's right to defend itself after the horrific events that happened on 7th October. Hamas need eradicated. It is far more likely that Palestine will cease to continue soon. Do you know the history of Israel, who their allies are and who supplies them with weapons?

Do you accept the barbaric atrocities on October 7th happened?

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I don't have purple hair, Palestinian flags or a twitter account. I never watch TikTok either. What I do have is enough knowledge to understand that we are witnessing now is not something that started on 07/10/23 but in 1948, i.e. the systematic oppression of the Palestinian “

Started way further back than 1948

Every major religion, and most minor ones, have been used at some point by some people to justify war, violence and persecution. Your attempt to hide your Islamophobic tendencies behind a thin veneer of flawed logic doesn't wash.

you mean like the 40 fake babies being "beheaded"?

There was nothing fake about the babies being dead, and so mutilated that it was difficult to tell if they had been beheaded or not.

Agree

Those wanting Israel to “cease to exist”… just be aware that this would mean war. Which would most likely destabilise the whole region and could have a massive spillover effect.

but let’s assume it will just “cease”.
then what??

the past has clearly shown that the people and organisations who would take over will gladly murder, torture and rape every Israeli. Whether man, woman or child. Are you prepared to watch that? It will affect nearly 10 million.
if you think that they would be allowed to stay “peacefully” you are completely delusional. So what should happen? What can realistically happen?

do you think the Mizrahi Jews expelled will get their property back in the Arab nations that expelled their ancestors? Or will even be allowed to return?
what about the beta Israel? Just drop them back to Ethiopia? And Ashkenazim? Deport them to the pale of settlement or wherever their ancestors somehow managed to survive??

let’s not even get into the fact that a growing number of Israelis are of mixed heritage.