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To think Israel won't exist much longer?

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sergeantsalt · 28/10/2023 07:56

Support in the west is declining, and when Israel doesn't have weapons and defense funding they won't be able to defend against their neighbouring countries on their own. AIBU to wonder how much longer it can exist given they are losing support?

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Sausagenbacon · 28/10/2023 11:33

The fact is that hamas has good support in Gaza and elsewhere. They have thrived in Gaza. Where in Israel do you see glee at the death of civilian garzans and active street celebrations?
Plus people spitting on the bodies of raped women.

Parkingt111 · 28/10/2023 11:33

Can we please distinguish between the Israeli government and the Israeli citizens

Likewise between Hamas and the Gazan citizens

It is not fair to Tar everyone under the same brush

SomeCatFromJapan · 28/10/2023 11:33

And a lot of Jews (myself included) see this

So you've gone from some Jewish ancestry to being Jewish. I don't believe you for a second.

FlutterbyWhiskers · 28/10/2023 11:32

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SomeCatFromJapan · 28/10/2023 11:32

*Hamas did not happen in a vacuum. What they did on Oct 7th was atrocious, no denying. None of this would have happened if the world had stopped Israel's land grabbing from the start, instead of being afraid of being called an anti semite.

The problem is Israel and the Jewish are quick to hide behind the holocaust and accusations of anti semitism when they are called out for their atrocities. So the world now sits and watches as Israel commits a genocide, the Jewish people have gone from being the abused to being the abuser.

This is now part of their history. We have to teach this to our children.*

This is a shitshow of a post.

Yet again qualifying a mass terrorist atrocity. What they did was atrocious BUT. There shouldn't be a but for the torture and slaugher of civilians.

It is then followed by an anti-Semitic statement, conflating Israel with all Jewish people and making an offensive claim about the Holocaust.

The scary thing is that people feel it's perfectly okay to say this out loud.

SinnerBoy · 28/10/2023 11:31

FlutterbyWhiskers · Today 11:28

"The Jewish community"?

That's probably crossed the line. Jewish posters here and in the real world have criticised the Israeli response. Jewish people, like any other group, have a range of beliefs and opinions.

OhHelloTheres · 28/10/2023 11:30

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Oooh you're doubling down! Interesting strategy! Really showing your true colours

briggs1 · 28/10/2023 11:29

And a lot of Jews (myself included) see this @FlutterbyWhiskers

Defiantjazz · 28/10/2023 11:29

Started way further back than 1948

I’m not sure it did tbh.
There was certainly conflict following the increased migration of Jews to the region following WW2 (hence the proposed partition) and Zionism was founded towards the end of the nineteenth century. Beyond that..what are you thinking of?

snickersandmarsandbounty · 28/10/2023 11:29

I really don’t think Isreal will continue as we know it, it has battled and fought its boundaries since it was formed. It is simply not sustainable, US is on a downward trajectory and without its funding in the long term everything will collapse.
That is why it’s imperative that a resolution can be found through peaceful methods

OhHelloTheres · 28/10/2023 11:29

@FlutterbyWhiskers
"the Jewish people have gone from being the abused to being the abuser."

Might want to think about what you've just said there. You're not making yourself look very good.

FlutterbyWhiskers · 28/10/2023 11:28

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SinnerBoy · 28/10/2023 11:28

Parkingt111 · Today 11:22

I stand by this. CEASEFIRE. there has been enough bloodshed on both sides.

I couldn't agree more and anyone who wants more and more bombing is a cold-hearted psychopath.

RudsyFarmer · 28/10/2023 11:27

I don’t think the West will exist much longer as we are all linked through colonialism. So accept that by doing away with Israel you are happy to also do away with America, the UK and much of Europe.

EasternStandard · 28/10/2023 11:25

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There is no justification for the depraved barbarity by Hamas on October 7th

The rest of your post is very off

ACGTHelix · 28/10/2023 11:24

does anyone know what the intelligence services are saying ?

OhHelloTheres · 28/10/2023 11:24

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Right so October 7th didn't happen in a vacuum, but everything Israel has ever done did?

briggs1 · 28/10/2023 11:24

Wonkasworld · 28/10/2023 11:24

Don't converse with me.

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Wonkasworld · 28/10/2023 11:24

briggs1 · 28/10/2023 11:23

Yeah you won't want the truth to be out would you

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Don't converse with me.

briggs1 · 28/10/2023 11:23

Wonkasworld · 28/10/2023 11:23

Just when you think it can't get any worse 🙄i hope this thread is gone soon.

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Yeah you won't want the truth to be out would you

Wonkasworld · 28/10/2023 11:23

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Just when you think it can't get any worse 🙄i hope this thread is gone soon.

Parkingt111 · 28/10/2023 11:22

I stand by this
CEASEFIRE. there has been enough bloodshed on both sides

To think Israel won't exist much longer?
briggs1 · 28/10/2023 11:22

SinnerBoy · 28/10/2023 11:18

Armenians in Nagorny Karabakh, just a few weeks ago.

That's more complicated that many people realise. The Azeris are also using starvation as a tactic.

But... the haven't told the Armenians to leave, they've offered them Azeri citizenship. Nagorno Karabakh is not and never has been part of Armenia. There was a significant Armenian minority and, with Russian support, they annexed it and drove the Azeris out.

God, perhaps are shite, aren't they?

It's interesting you mention Armenia WORLD NEWS

FILE - Ethnic Armenians from Nagorno-Karabakh travel on a truck on their way to Kornidzor, Armenia, on Sept. 26, 2023. Israel has quietly helped fuel Azerbaijan’s campaign to recapture Nagorno-Karabakh, officials and experts say, supplying powerful wea...

Israeli arms quietly helped Azerbaijan retake Nagorno-Karabakh, to the dismay of region's Armenians

Israel has quietly helped fuel Azerbaijan’s campaign to recapture Nagorno-Karabakh, supplying powerful weapons to the country ahead of its lightening offensive last month that brought the Armenian separatist enclave in its territory back under its cont...

https://apnews.com/article/armenia-azerbaijan-nagorno-karabakh-weapons-israel-6814437bcd744acc1c4df0409a74406c

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