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Conflict in the Middle East

To think Israel won't exist much longer?

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sergeantsalt · 28/10/2023 07:56

Support in the west is declining, and when Israel doesn't have weapons and defense funding they won't be able to defend against their neighbouring countries on their own. AIBU to wonder how much longer it can exist given they are losing support?

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OhHelloTheres · 28/10/2023 11:48

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I haven't once said I don't sympathise with the Palestinians.

You haven't spoken the truth, you have made anti-semitic comments. If that's your truth, that's quite problematic.

Auvergne63 · 28/10/2023 11:47

Wonkasworld · 28/10/2023 10:35

Yes, let's just forget October 7th even happened. The amount of times I've seen

"I don't condone Hamas, BUT.."

Don't twist my words, please. Did I say " Let's forget the 07/10?", no! Hamas was not just magically born out of nowhere. Fact.
The number of times I have seen " But look what Hamas did" to justify the systematic killing of Palestinians civilians is staggering. An eye for an eye and the world goes blind , according to Gandhi. How many must die before you are satisfied that revenge has been done?

Confucius Quote

Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.

https://www.azquotes.com/quote/353636

Wonkasworld · 28/10/2023 11:47

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etmoietmoietmoi · 28/10/2023 11:46

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FlutterbyWhiskers · 28/10/2023 11:44

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briggs1 · 28/10/2023 11:44

Ah so as usual we have distracted ourselves from the situation in Gaza. Nicely done.

OhHelloTheres · 28/10/2023 11:43

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I didn't twist any words. I repeated exactly what you said. Would you like a chance to clarify what you meant and apologise for apparently inadvertently making anti-semitic comments?

FlutterbyWhiskers · 28/10/2023 11:43

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Wonkasworld · 28/10/2023 11:42

etmoietmoietmoi · 28/10/2023 11:41

@FlutterbyWhiskers I know antisemitism when I see it, so yes, I very much do get to call it out when I see it. Because, as you point out, I'm one of (and I quote) "the Jewish"

She and her sidekick are proud of their bigotry.

etmoietmoietmoi · 28/10/2023 11:41

@FlutterbyWhiskers I know antisemitism when I see it, so yes, I very much do get to call it out when I see it. Because, as you point out, I'm one of (and I quote) "the Jewish"

FlutterbyWhiskers · 28/10/2023 11:40

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Parkingt111 · 28/10/2023 11:40

I agree
Ceasefire and a solution
Nobody should be adding fuel to the fire of war
There will be losses on both sides
There has been enough
Hostages released and stop the bombing on both sides
And stop those crazed settlers in the west bank too

Eatapeach · 28/10/2023 11:40

Israel is a beacon of hope, whose success and prosperity in every sphere of human and economic flourishing stands as a rebuke to the theocratic and authoritarian barbarism of the states that surround it. Palestinians could have made peace and had a state at any time since 1948, but they didn’t because their leaders hate Jews more than they love their own people.
Prove me wrong without descending into lies and vulgar antisemitism. Tell me why you care about Palestinians and not the actual genocide of Muslims in China, or ethnic cleansing of Rohingya in Myanmar- if you’re this angry about Palestine you must be incandescent about those other, actual, examples.
Thuggish crowds March in our streets like it’s the 1930s - and for a change the Nazi allusion is fitting and not hyperbolic. Ghoulish pornographers of death hold up dead babies (oh, but not Jewish babies - they don’t count!) to revive ancient blood libels. Hate dominates our discourse because it’s easy to shout down dissenters from a moral high ground based on lies and distortions, whether that’s on social media or in the streets.
Israel will prevail because it has to, and the world will continue to be a better place because it exists.

Wonkasworld · 28/10/2023 11:40

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Still watching you.

OhHelloTheres · 28/10/2023 11:39

@FlutterbyWhiskers
You've now said that the Jewish people have gone from being abused to being the abuser, and then said the Jewish community are committing genocide. I'd call that doubling down on your extreme anti-semitic views

FlutterbyWhiskers · 28/10/2023 11:39

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etmoietmoietmoi · 28/10/2023 11:39

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FlutterbyWhiskers · 28/10/2023 11:38

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Wonkasworld · 28/10/2023 11:38

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We see you.

Everythingnotsavedwillbelost73 · 28/10/2023 11:37

I am interested on these threads what people want to happen. Israel obvs isn’t going to disappear but people rightly feel outraged at what’s happening currently.

I have just watched settlers illegally demolishing Palestinian homes on the West Bank- literally happening today right now. How is that possibly right too?

Today- I would like to see an immediate ceasefire as a basic first step. Hamas to return the hostages immediately. And then serious proper negotiations on the establishment of a proper 2 state solution . Split the country fairly in half? Establish a proper Palestinian state. Pre 1967 boundaries too?

What else? How do you get rid of Hamas without violence? How did the good Friday agreement persuade the IRA to down weapons & give up violence?

etmoietmoietmoi · 28/10/2023 11:37

the Jewish are quick to hide behind the holocaust and accusations of anti semitism

But you thought you'd slip in a quick antisemitism anyway.

FlutterbyWhiskers · 28/10/2023 11:35

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briggs1 · 28/10/2023 11:34

SomeCatFromJapan · 28/10/2023 11:33

And a lot of Jews (myself included) see this

So you've gone from some Jewish ancestry to being Jewish. I don't believe you for a second.

I find this quote anti-Semitic @mumsnet.

WalkingThroughTreacle · 28/10/2023 11:34

briggs1 · 28/10/2023 11:15

Yeah it's really disgusting and pathetic when no one cares about Palestinian lives. I am glad the world is waking up to Israeli atrocities.

What I find pathetic is people who think that brutality by one side is more justifiable than that of the other side, or that lives lost by one side have less value than those lost by the other.

People like you, who clearly have taken a side in this tragic conflict, are as much a part of the problem as those who are ordering or carrying out the violence.

What is so wrong with you that you are incapable of seeing the value in all human life and the utter futility of armed conflict?

FlutterbyWhiskers · 28/10/2023 11:34

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