To think Israel won't exist much longer?

@FlutterbyWhiskers -Well fuck my old boots, that’s a fucking train wreck:

The problem is Israel and the Jewish are quick to hide behind the holocaust and accusations of anti semitism when they are called out for their atrocities. So the world now sits and watches as Israel commits a genocide, the Jewish people have gone from being the abused to being the abuser.

All the posters that keep referring glibly to the Holocaust, implying that this is a current one, you clearly don’t know what it was.

As for the ‘Jewish people’? I’m actually speechless. You don’t like Jewish people? Just own it.

Exactly my thoughts.

@sergeantsalt If you are genuinely Jewish (unlike another poster on here who claims to be but very clearly isn't) why on earth did you start a thread which only a fool could not see is a GIANT dog-whistle to the antisemites hanging around MN over the last few weeks?!!

Thank you. I think I remember from another thread that you are a Muslim, so a particular thank you for standing up against the horrendous antisemitism being posted here.

the IRA were only part of the problem. The DUP continued to oppose the agreement. Ultimately, and in very short, what got it over the line was public support for peace both in Northern Ireland and the republic (where there was also a referendum)

I also keep seeing, when people express anguish at the thousands of Palestinian deaths, ‘but what was Israel supposed to do’. I don’t think the current situation can be discussed without the use of the word ‘but’ 🤷🏼‍♀️

YABU, nonsense and antisemetic.

But surely you must have realised this thread would bring about alot of anti semitism
Aswell as distracting from what is actually happening right now

While I agree with parts of your post - your point that Palestine could have had their own state and a peaceful existance on their own land at any time - sounds like someone has drank the koolaid. A big part of the issue is the disagreement over rights to land and specifically Holy Places. Would Palestine have been able to choose their borders and boundaries or how would they have created this peaceful state and taken land from Israel without Israel pushing back? You really think Israel would have allowed Palestine to create a new free country within their borders? What if Palestine wanted to include Jerusalem in their new state? Would Israel have peacefully agreed to this? There is zero chance that Palestine could have had any time since '48 simply created their own free independent state and lived peacefully along side the Israeli's who would have agreed to give Palestine their land and cities. You need to go and read about what life was like for the '48 Palestinians.

Nor me Parking.

Thank you.

Is mumsnet actually going to let this effluent remain on its site?

Wonder how its advertisers feel about being associated with rhetoric that would sit nicely on Stormfront.

properbly swamped and trying to catchup

I have reported many posts
Not sure what MNHQ are doing

Well said. I think one can only remain dignified, for so long. I hope others are reporting them xxx

I'm aware that I used " bloodshed cannot atone" so will now be accused of antisemitism as that's possibly a trope.
But can we accept that collective punishment, death of non combatants and razed earth cannot ever create a solution ?

It's so pathetic, isn't it? The sad thing is that it gets lapped up by the most stupid of the racists.

I agree that sometimes people incorrectly accuse people of saying anti-semitic things. In your case, it's not incorrect. You are blatantly saying anti-semitic things.

Noticed how I'm not saying you're anti-semitic? Just that you're saying anti-semitic things. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and giving you a chance to retract your previous statements and plead ignorance. Words matter. Use them responsibly.

@BlurredEdges it's fucking disgraceful. This poster has taken it upon themselves to "educate" MN by posting a screen of anti-Semitism, and clearly feels that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do, which is the most worrying part.

one man's terrorist may be another's freedom fighter. Wasn't Mandela considered a terrorist.

You consider Hamas to be freedom fighters?

I'm equally sorry their posts are being allowed to stand.

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