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Gaza has gone dark ... and I am very afraid!

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HeidiInTheBigCity · 27/10/2023 19:14

Tonight, as Gaza has gone dark, tonight, as Gazan civilians have lost that lifeline that used to be "publishing their cries for help to the Internet, as they were literally dying", tonight, as even that option has ceased to exist!

I STAND WITH CIVILIANS!

Not with Hamas!
NOT with the ultra-far-right Israeli government - out for revenge!

Tonight, I STAND WITH CIVILIANS, as innocent men, women and children are dying, collectively punished, for the crime of having been born in the wrong place, at the wrong time!

Tonight, I STAND WITH CIVILIANS, as the families of Israeli hostages watch helplessly, as their missing loved ones are bombed into oblivion, and their own PM has not even bothered to meet with them! Because, once again, revenge has won! Violence has won! Barbarism has won! Death has won!

Tonight, I stand with my friend, a Palestinian-born [what he does for a living] currently getting drunk at a bar in [not where you'd expect] - because he cannot stand watching anymore! We cried together on the phone - it felt nice to know there was someone else out there - but it also felt supremely disempowered and helpless! Tonight, I stand with men, women, boys, girls ... just people, people who want to live!

Tonight, as I recall how utterly terrified I used to be when I, myself, became an accidental witness to the assault on [Palestinian city], some 20 years ago now! I also recall the good times: I recall standing on the rooftop of the [name] family's home, watching flares in the sky, deliberately pretending they were just very bright stars, kissing, and dancing with my fiancé. Snuggling up to him under the wide open sky, as we ignored the sound of shooting in the background, as we just wanted to ... live a little! ... under circumstances that didn't leave much room for living. For life! Knowing we would learn about names of people we knew and the fact that they had been killed while we had been trying to ... just live a little ... as the following day would break!

Tonight, I stand with civilians, realising that this particular, comparatively "fluffy" version of war - a version, make no mistake, that has left me deeply traumatised for life, bittersweet memories aside! - this is just NOT AN OPTION for Gazans tonight!

Tonight, I CRY FOR CIVILIANS! Especially, but not only, for civilians in Gaza!

We have GOT TO DO better!

Note: yes, I have censored a number of data points - because that is how afraid I am! I am not willing to potentially expose people I consider friends, family even, unnecessarily as I, frankly helplessly, post to the so-called Internet, pleading for their lives or, at the very least: sympathy!

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Cadenza12 · 27/10/2023 23:12

I'm at a loss to understand why attempts are not being made to halt this war, which is looking more and more like mass murder. If nothing else vested interest should demand a ceasefire before the whole region ignites. Then what?

passiveaggressivenonsense · 27/10/2023 23:11

Today Britain voted against a ceasefire in the UN . 120 voted to stop the massacre and 14 voted for it to continue, Britain appears to be in the minority which believes resolution comes from the mass punishment of 2 million Palestiniens.

Zzbutton · 27/10/2023 23:11

Heelenahandbasket · 27/10/2023 23:03

There is no war crimes or carpet bombing. Lying doesn’t help anyone. It’s a war, which is awful of course, but Israeli is defending itself which it is entitled to do like every other country.

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@Heelenahandbasket If there is any justice in this world Israels government and anyone who supported their absolute despicable war crimes will answer. They went beyond defending themselves a long time ago. Please check your conscience on what defence means. I do agree with one thing you said - lying doesn’t help anyone.

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HeidiInTheBigCity · 27/10/2023 23:10

Again: please don't make it more partisan than you absolutely have to! I realise that it cannot - none of this can be! - "apolitical"! That's just not an option!

But I WILL reiterate "why I started the thread, and what I am hoping it can be":

How about, TONIGHT, as we cannot even see anymore - we used to, and that in itself is disturbing, just being able to see humanity at its worst, thanks to the internet! - and now we cannot ... the people who relied on it to scream for help ... they cannot, anymore)!

How about ... just for tonight, we make it all just about civilians, though?!

People just like you and me? Caught up, terrified, not prepared to die for something they did not start?

Tonight, I STAND WITH CIVILIANS, and with PEOPLE WHO CANNOT SLEEP (myself sadly included).

Good night!

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SaintMarie · 27/10/2023 23:10

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queenofarles · 27/10/2023 23:09

Heelenahandbasket thats not war !!!!
even wars have protocols, this is a genocide , a total massacre ,
and how is Israel protecting itself?? , who in their right mind would want to live in a country that refused to negotiate the safe return of their own hostages and opted for mass destruction.

mollyfolk · 27/10/2023 23:09

Heelenahandbasket · 27/10/2023 23:03

There is no war crimes or carpet bombing. Lying doesn’t help anyone. It’s a war, which is awful of course, but Israeli is defending itself which it is entitled to do like every other country.

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Please explain how the Israeli authorities are targeting Hamas right now? How are you justifying this? How is it not collective punishment? It wouldn’t be ok for any country in the world to do this. Honestly, I grew up in Northern Ireland and to me this seems like the equivalent of Britain bombing catholic areas because the IRA committed atrocities in Britain.

duchiebun · 27/10/2023 23:08

@Wolfen what exactly do you think the “world” should do?

Heelenahandbasket · 27/10/2023 23:07

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The shifra hospital in Gaza city is known and acknowledged as being a major centre of Hamas operations. I saw this reported on over a year ago.

are you talking about that hospital or the hospital that was hit by a rocket a few days ago? You need to stick to facts and get away from hate and misinformation

SaintMarie · 27/10/2023 23:04

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Wolfen · 27/10/2023 23:04

Lulooo · 27/10/2023 22:57

How can anyone in their right mind, any human being with an ounce of humanity, think the intentional and premeditated barbaric treatment of Palestinian civilians like this is acceptable?

I can't believe the world just stands aside watching this massacre and no one is able to do anything. This is pure evil.

Heelenahandbasket · 27/10/2023 23:03

lokimoki · 27/10/2023 20:24

Tonight I stand with all the civilians squashed in this enclave and carpet bombed. The war crimes that has already been committed and that have been censored by our western media are probably happy now celebrating that they will not have to fire fight other journalists revealing what's really happening from Gaza now since there's a blackout. God help humanity.

There is no war crimes or carpet bombing. Lying doesn’t help anyone. It’s a war, which is awful of course, but Israeli is defending itself which it is entitled to do like every other country.

Igotjelly · 27/10/2023 23:02

ButterfliesnWaterfalls · 27/10/2023 23:01

Truth hurts?

Journalists will get killed.

No water, aid, electricity, fuel.

Thousands of babies/children already killed.
Families wiped out.

They said go south then they bombed the south.

They said Hamas is in Gaza yet they’re killing and imprisoning Palestinians in West Bank.

Hospitals, churches, homes bombed.

And I’m vile - lol - okay.

None of these things mean that what happened on 7th Oct was in any way acceptable. ‘lol’ - grow up.

ButterfliesnWaterfalls · 27/10/2023 23:01

Truth hurts?

Journalists will get killed.

No water, aid, electricity, fuel.

Thousands of babies/children already killed.
Families wiped out.

They said go south then they bombed the south.

They said Hamas is in Gaza yet they’re killing and imprisoning Palestinians in West Bank.

Hospitals, churches, homes bombed.

And I’m vile - lol - okay.

Igotjelly · 27/10/2023 23:00

Sometimes intelligence fails and Israel has been going through an incredible period of upheavel when their focus would likely have been internal so mistakes do happen.

Parkingt111 · 27/10/2023 23:00

Parkingt111 · 27/10/2023 22:58

Please just stop
You are going to get the whole thread deleted
Hamas most certainly did take hostages which they should release immediately
These are innocent people who deserve just as much of our empathy as the innocent palestinian civilians

This was to @ButterfliesnWaterfalls

SaintMarie · 27/10/2023 23:00

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duchiebun · 27/10/2023 23:00

Whether it was allowed by the IDF or was just them being entirely incompetent, well, that's another matter.

Yeah, I’m out of this thread now. It’s clear where it’s going.

Igotjelly · 27/10/2023 22:59

What the IDF are doing in Gaza is absolutely atrocious. That said how fucking dare people deny the attack on the 7th October when other genuine innocents were massacred horrifically. Have some decency.

Parkingt111 · 27/10/2023 22:58

Please just stop
You are going to get the whole thread deleted
Hamas most certainly did take hostages which they should release immediately
These are innocent people who deserve just as much of our empathy as the innocent palestinian civilians

duchiebun · 27/10/2023 22:58

They have said that they won’t negotiate with Hamas.

Its not unusual to not negotiate with terrorists.

Dinkydaisy1 · 27/10/2023 22:58

duchiebun · 27/10/2023 22:55

I think the hostage taking did happen but the real mystery is how did the country with the ‘worlds best intel’ and one of the best security systems not notice the border fence being cut or people parachuting over... They are even reported to have had warnings…

It’s not a conspiracy, complacency & arrogance 🙄 They didn’t have warnings or not how you are implying…

America had absolute proof that the axis of evil had weapons of mass destruction. They killed a million Iraqis and destroyed a country. Oh, but oops, it was a mistake, but hey we got the oil we wanted and took down someone we didn't like so yay!

Lulooo · 27/10/2023 22:57

How can anyone in their right mind, any human being with an ounce of humanity, think the intentional and premeditated barbaric treatment of Palestinian civilians like this is acceptable?

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