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Israeli Hostage describes IDF killing Israeli civilians

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Toothyfruity · 26/10/2023 21:35

Have you seen this interview? It's remarkable and interesting to hear a different perspective to what happened on that day.

https://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-forces-shot-their-own-civilians-kibbutz-survivor-says/38861

Israeli forces shot their own civilians, kibbutz survivor says

Palestinian fighters treated Israeli captives "humanely," recalls Yasmin Porat.

https://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-forces-shot-their-own-civilians-kibbutz-survivor-says/38861

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LeCirqueFouFurieux · 29/10/2023 15:45

Many of the terrorists were dressed in IDF uniforms, this was reported widely in the hours and days following the attacks; they also claimed to be IDF to get people out of their houses which is why "safe" words were sent via WhatsApp groups when IDF were trying to rescue people.

Dinkydaisy1 · 29/10/2023 15:23

Fortheloveofwatermelon · 27/10/2023 01:29

And you would not believe the facts even if God himself came down to tell you looks like.
Do you believe this?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4UTW_LVr6/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Ha! So true.

Sugaristheenemy · 29/10/2023 07:57

I haven't seen your link but I can't forget when I saw the interview of the lady and she described how well they are all taken care of. Fed well, showering facilities, paramedic available at all times all of which Palestinians can only dream of right now and then all the news outlets put out their headlines THEY PUT ME THROUGH HELL!

That was a difference person. It sound like it was this lady

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna121852

After she was freed, Israeli hostage offered a handshake to Hamas

Yocheved Lifshitz, 85, said Hamas fighters were “very kind” and “took care of all of our needs” after she was kidnapped, beaten and taken through a labyrinth of underground tunnels.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna121852

VeronicaSawyer89 · 29/10/2023 00:42

Fortheloveofwatermelon · 27/10/2023 01:29

And you would not believe the facts even if God himself came down to tell you looks like.
Do you believe this?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4UTW_LVr6/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

There is no god luv, so I'm even less likely to take what you say seriously.

Fortheloveofwatermelon · 27/10/2023 01:29

VeronicaSawyer89 · 26/10/2023 22:07

She's likely to say whatever the fuck the terrorists have told her to say considering they're still holding her elderly husband hostage, isn't she?

And you would not believe the facts even if God himself came down to tell you looks like.
Do you believe this?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4UTW_LVr6/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4UTW_LVr6?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D

FOJN · 26/10/2023 22:07

I've heard an interview with a kibbutz survivor (not sure if it's same one in the link) who said the same. It wasn't from the same outlet though. I think she said Hamas were trying to surrender and the IDF shot everyone, including the hostages, apart from her.

VeronicaSawyer89 · 26/10/2023 22:07

Threemangoes · 26/10/2023 21:47

I haven't seen your link but I can't forget when I saw the interview of the lady and she described how well they are all taken care of. Fed well, showering facilities, paramedic available at all times all of which Palestinians can only dream of right now and then all the news outlets put out their headlines THEY PUT ME THROUGH HELL!

She's likely to say whatever the fuck the terrorists have told her to say considering they're still holding her elderly husband hostage, isn't she?

Threemangoes · 26/10/2023 21:47

I haven't seen your link but I can't forget when I saw the interview of the lady and she described how well they are all taken care of. Fed well, showering facilities, paramedic available at all times all of which Palestinians can only dream of right now and then all the news outlets put out their headlines THEY PUT ME THROUGH HELL!

Toothyfruity · 26/10/2023 21:45

No I don't have time to summarise it for you. Here's some of the text in the preamble:

"The Electronic Intifada is now able to publish the entire interview with Yasmin Porat, the Kibbutz Be’eri survivor who told Israeli radio that Israeli security forces “undoubtedly” killed a large number of their own civilians following the Hamas assault on 7 October.

When this article was originally published on 15 October, a recording of the interview was not available on the website of Israeli state broadcaster Kan and was not included in the online edition of Haboker Hazeh for that day, the program that interviewed Porat.

Following the publication of this article, the full interview was uploaded by Kan. It includes several extra minutes that were edited out of the version of the interview that we had originally obtained and translated.

In the full-length interview, Porat states that the Palestinian fighters – who she says treated her and the other Israeli civilians “humanely” – intended to “kidnap us to Gaza. Not to murder us.”
She adds that “after we were there for two hours with the abductors, the police arrive. A gun battle takes place that our police started.”

You can listen to the full interview with English subtitles here in the video below. A full transcript is at the bottom of this page.

Also of note is that Mondoweiss on 22 October published a story based on accounts in Israeli media indicating that Israeli forces were responsible for many Israeli civilian and military deaths following the 7 October Palestinian offensive.

This includes the shocking revelation that some Israeli civilians were alive for up to two days before Israeli forces killed them, along with Palestinian fighters who were holding them.

Israel’s Haaretz newspaper on 20 October published an interview – only in its Hebrew edition – with a man called Tuval who lived in Kibbutz Be’eri, but who was away on 7 October. Tuval’s partner was however killed in the events.

Haaretz reports: “According to him [Tuval], only on Monday night and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages – did the IDF [Israeli army] complete the takeover of the kibbutz. The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri people were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”

This testimony would seem to indicate that many Israeli captives were still alive on Monday, 9 October, Mondoweiss observes, a full two days after the events of Saturday, 7 October.

“While it might be understandable if captives had been killed in the hectic crossfire of an initial Israeli response to the attack on the 7th, this account would seem to indicate that the decision to assault the kibbutz and everyone inside was made as a clear military calculation,” Mondoweiss adds.
Here’s the interview with Yasmin Porat:"

Israeli forces shot their own civilians, kibbutz survivor says

Palestinian fighters treated Israeli captives "humanely," recalls Yasmin Porat.

https://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-forces-shot-their-own-civilians-kibbutz-survivor-says/38861#transcript

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OhHelloTheres · 26/10/2023 21:40

Not clicking on a link for something called electronic intifada 🤦🏻‍♀️ Can't find any evidence of an interview elsewhere - can you summarise what she says?

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