Justifying the rape of women

Not just people on Mumsnet I hate to tell you. But of course everyone else's opinion is dismissed too. 7th march 2024 Geneva
" Israeli armed forces are reported to have repeatedly violated the duties of distinction, proportionality and precaution, as well as the prohibition of indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks under international humanitarian law, and to have failed in their duty to respect, protect and fulfil the right to life of the population of Gaza and the West Bank, resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands of protected persons, including a large number of children, women and the elderly, which may amount to grave breaches of international humanitarian law and international human rights law, including war crimes and crimes against humanity."
UN experts urge the international community to step up pressure to end crimes, uphold international law and save lives in Gaza | OHCHR

Israel's response is disproportionate there is nothing unfortunate about pointing that out on mumsnet it is important we do

Mine was deleted yesterday too. Censorship is strong.

I see my post has been deleted. At some point, the truth is going to be so overwhelming obvious that it will be impossible to suppress it.

I take you don't support of freedom of speech, a right you are exercising right now. I also fail to understand how he has caused irreparable damage. I would welcome your explanation on this.

If only more countries stopped people entering them who do them irreparable damage. Why would Israel want him there? It's not being scared it's being sensible.

I think that you are referring to his views on how the survivors of the Holocaust barely received any compensation ( his mother received £3500) while some organisations received millions, which were not passed down to the victims of this evil. This is documented, by the way.
This is not the thread to discuss this and I am fully aware that this is controversial but I still think that freedom of speech is essential in any democracy.

Yes, and unfortunately there is so much of it here on MN, together with dismissing Israel's response as "disproportionate" and "unnecessary."

Thank you for your post. Any minimising of the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7th is awful to see.

I don't think they're afraid of him, so much as feeling he doesn't belong in Israel since making a living out of claims that the Holocaust is basically a money-spinner for them.

Did you not see any of the Nova Festival survivor testimonies on YouTube (etc) in the immediate aftermath? Or did you think people could fake that level of visible trauma?

Your opinion. I don't agree with every thing he says but he has made some very interesting points. I also find it interesting that he is barred from entering Israel.
Why are they afraid of him? I thought freedom of speech was a corner stone of a democracy.

Yes quite. I will listen to women, when they speak about their experiences.

I won't listen to projection and speculation from people who have no idea. Interestingly the UN report implied the media behaviour was counterproductive because it could be stopping victims coming forward for fear they would not remain anonymous.

@stomachamelon What she's saying is hearsay though. No actual evidence in the report.

The report says that not a single victim of sexual assault has been positively identified either living or dead.

I agree that we should believe all women but not a single woman has been identified so far.

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This was under that statement.....

@EasterIssland no probs I just meant I found an extended one. Was getting at you.

Latest news from BICOM -

Israeli Minister of Foreign Affairs Katz addressed the UN Security Council’s emergency session to discuss the report on Hamas’ sexual crimes during the October 7th massacre yesterday. “I am here on behalf of the women and girls who were raped, murdered and mutilated by Hamas murderers,” said Katz.
Katz also demanded that the UN recognise Hamas as a terrorist organisation and exert all possible pressure to return the remaining hostages.

"The United Nations has been silent regarding on the actions of Hamas for too long," Katz said. "Over the past five months, since October 7, the United Nations has convened 41 times and has neither condemned nor denounced the brutal crimes of Hamas."

The UN report, authored by Pramila Patten, found “reasonable grounds” to conclude that Hamas committed rape and gang rape at multiple sites during the massacre, as well as “clear and convincing information” that hostages in Gaza were subject to “sexual violence including rape, sexualised torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment.”

Yes I wasn’t asking where the source was coming from from your post but I wanted to read more about her speech and found the UN report about the conference yesterday where they discussed it, hence why my link

Because Hamas murdered them.
I think we have mentioned that.

@EasterIssland came from this

twitter.com/AdamAlbilya/status/1767291406937145840

As has been explained to you before

I am sorry to be thick, apparently, but you use the term "disproportionate" twice here, and "unnecessary" three times.

Of course, completely understandably, there is an urgent desire to stop further harm in Gaza. But what about an equally urgent desire to prevent further harm in Israel? Isn't that valid?

I believe this is from yesterday. The different comments the countries did and Patterns speech

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147477

www.reddit.com/r/Israel/s/zfhC4zHTf0

Please explain your post.