Justifying the rape of women

Sadly, many people have an unspoken "except for Muslim/Palestinian women" at the end of that.

There are eyewitness accounts, first hand accounts coming out from Gaza of women experiencing sexual harassment, sexual assault and rape.

Just as our starting point for reports of sexual violence and harm from the events of 7/10 should be to believe women, our starting point for these emerging accounts should be the same. Rape and other sexual violence is a frequent occurrence in conflicts, and we need to investigate and condemn it wherever it occurs.

It was the first source that was in google. It’s strange how you prefer to say something about it when it’s been spoken about 7-O already and there is a thread about al jazeeras report without saying a single word about the actual news : women have been raped in the hospital in the last few days by IDF. I’m not even surprised about the actual news being ignored by some posters.

What happened to "I believe women"?

"Reported rape crimes against Palestinian women come a few days after a new forensic analysis by Al Jazeera debunked Israel’s rape claims against Hamas."

A balanced, neutral source then I see.

From your article:

"Reported rape crimes against Palestinian women come a few days after a new forensic analysis by Al Jazeera debunked Israel’s rape claims against Hamas."

...?!?!?

Eyewitness Accuses Israel of Raping Women During Ongoing Al-Shifa RaidDescribing the situation as horrific, the eyewitness said that whoever attempts to rescue women subject to rape and execution is shot.

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2024/03/361577/eyewitness-accuses-israel-of-raping-women-during-ongoing-al-shifa-raid

And I'm sorry that people go out of their way to come on to a thread about Israeli rape victims to deny they were raped. But it looks like MNHQ have sorted that out too.

@ScrollingLeaves I literally emailed Mumsnet straight away and explained where it was meant to be. Hence them being happy to withdraw it.
It wasn't meant as a personal dig even on the thread it was supposed to be on.

Thank you.

I meant to also say that I am sorry you felt it was implied that you are a rape denier, especially as a rape survivor. People shouldn’t throw terms like that around at individuals they don’t really know, and without proper evidence. I think it all got sorted out from the sounds of things, and hopefully it wasn’t aimed at you anyway.

I have but no reply yet.

You can ask them why it was deleted if you think it shouldn’t have been.

No.

Why did mnhq delete the post - Do you know?

I had thought this too.

To be fair, Stomachameleon, your post may have been accidentally there under Auvergne’s post, but no one could have known it was accidental at the time. I had certainly thought it was aimed at Auvergne63, and can see why they were upset.

Anyway, it’s good to know it wasn’t meant for Auvergne.

Do you mean to be so condescending in your reply and to make sly digs? You posted straight under my post. I think it is logical conclusion to think that it was meant for me.

answered this time. Sorry it annoys you. Just following etiquette.
It's not all about you... strangely.
Wrong thread. Have sent a message to Mumsnet. Am too embarrassed to say which one it's supposed to be on!
Nothing related! :)

You said," apparently, rape denial is against them" therefore you assumed that my post was deleted because it fell in that category. In conclusion, you implied I was a rape denier.

I didn't call you a rape denier. I said some of the deleted posts involved denial. If your deleted post was on another thread I don't see what relevance it has to this one.

It wasn't on this thread and if you are calling me, a rape denier you are attacking me personally, which is against Mumsnet rules. Furthermore, I am a rape survivor. Your unfounded accusation is highly offensive. I hope you will apologise.

Thank you for reiterating this

It is always disproportionate (regardless of provocation) to starve a population of 2.5 million people, knowing half of them are children and more at risk of malnutrition.

I doubt very much any of the rape victims think thousands of children deserve to die in retaliation for their trauma. In fact, if that were me I think it would make me feel even more traumatised to have my rape used in such a way.